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Catherine Beck's avatar

Yes. It is the best chance, although I fear that if not disciplined ASAP by withdrawal of funding, ICE will do their best to intimidate voters.

A Vote Safe campaign will be needed.

Daniel Solomon's avatar

Got this from Common Cause:

Daniel, an American mother is dead at the hands of ICE – and a government that’s supposed to keep us safe is sending masked gunmen to terrorize millions of our neighbors.

But the people in charge of it all, like Trump, Noem, and Miller, keep contradicting themselves, smearing, and trying to move on without giving us the answers we deserve.

Renee Nicole Good was just 37 years old and was a U.S. citizen. She had just dropped her 6-year-old son off at school when an ICE agent fired into her car in Minneapolis and took her life.

But instead of honoring her legacy and demanding accountability, federal officials like Secretary Kristi Noem went on TV to justify the shooting, accuse Good of “domestic terrorism,” and contradict the video. [1]

Our government is supposed to keep us safe – not kill one of its own citizens. Full transparency and accountability are the bare minimum when a preventable tragedy like this takes place.

Congress has the power and responsibility to investigate ICE’s use of deadly force and hold this administration accountable – and we’re demanding they use it.

That’s why Common Cause is partnering with the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) and the League of Women Voters (LWV) [2] – so we can create an unstoppable wave of public outcry to force lawmakers into action. You can be a part of it by taking action today.

https://act.commoncause.org/call_campaigns/hold-ice-accountable/?source=20260113_Investigate-DHS-Calls_FS&link_id=2&can_id=c21edc35afceb939e29222ede000e0fb&email_referrer=email_3050252&email_subject=hold-ice-accountable&

Cyn B's avatar

The fact that we need to "force" them is so embarrassing and unacceptable.

But OH look how quickly they started standing up over the threat to our federal reserve verses the constant threat to our people! The GOP only wakes up for money.

Jay Jay Eh's avatar

ICE & Rene GOOD — now even Joe Rogan is speaking out against Trump’s misuse of ICE : 🙄 About time.

NBC : https://apple.news/Aa327j8rNSq62RZzdBFiUpA

And fellow substacker Ken Klippenstein has been slipped ‘refresher’ ICE instructions as below.

- also discussion on how ICE needs volunteers from within their ranks to go to Minnesota now, as many *don’t like the situation post-Good shooting.

- Noem is trying to give them cover for reprehensible & illegal actions, but many aren’t buying it.

“Immigration officers received a "legal refresher" reminding them that 🔹personal insults 🔹and rude gestures are LEGAL, per documents leaked to me:

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/immigration-agents-terrified-by-ice

Mimi Braun's avatar

A vote safe campaign planning would mostly is needed

Marianne G's avatar

Agree, all states need to protect votes of their citizens. We have vote by mail in Colorado: voters receive tracking emails when their ballot has been mailed to them, when their voted ballot has been received, and another email when their voted ballot has been counted. I hope every state in the US converts to this system. It's the best there is for security and convenience (and allows for plenty of time to research all candidates), and it's nearly impossible to intimidate voters. I drop my ballot in a secure ballot box at my local library which is monitored 24/7 by security cameras. These days I don't trust the USPS enough to mail my ballot - too many unexpected delays.

Catherine Beck's avatar

Thanks for letting me know about that system. It seems very secure, as secure as Colorado can make it.

Sophia Demas's avatar

I'm with you 100%. From the beginning I've had this feeling that the existence of this lawless militia is all about intimidating voters at the polls. What will stop these thugs from plucking and kicking people out from voting lines in the midterms? This explains why this administration is acting like they're going to be in power forever...and it's terrifying....

Catherine Beck's avatar

So THEY think. Yet WE think differently.

Be calm, stay strong.

This seems like the right time for us to start playing great gospel music for ourselves to inspire our courage and determination!

Thomas Moore's avatar

The problem is that Trump does not accept the authority of Congress over the purse. He'll spend how he wants to and use loopholes to justify it in the courts. So go ahead but don't expect it to solve the problem. That can only happen at the ballot box... maybe. We can expect ICE to be checking IDs outside of those too.

CE's avatar

Congress must be leaned on to resist Trump. The courts seem ready to pull back the rubber stamp. Vigorous pushback from Congress could slow his river of garbage…we have not seen anything close to real pushback in Congress,even from Democrats who should be screaming and are not.write your elected folks. Write Schumer and Jeffries. Tell them the status quo has failed and we need action now. Join every protest near you. We have had enough good behavior from our supposed leaders. Let’s see some good trouble, or advise them they’ll be primaried and voted out.

David Parrish's avatar

"leaned on" is the key. We must make Congress' lives DIFFICULT until they respond. Almost everyone gets it backwards. The courts won't save us, Congress won't save us, only WE can save us. It must be a grassroots effort.

Swbv's avatar

And our highly partisan Supreme Court cannot be counted on to do anything to restore balance or even to encourage compassion or decency from our White House.

Daniel Solomon's avatar

Despite what you say, the courts have been stopping him for abusing the spending authority.

Sorry if I repeat. All Trump moves are designed to distract our attention.

Take advantage of the situation. Trump is vulnerable.

Yesterday, Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina and a member of the Senate Banking Committee, said he would oppose the confirmation of all picks for the Fed, including the forthcoming chair nomination, until the legal matter is resolved. Feasible to get several House members to flip, issue by issue.

IMHO Epstein is primary.

The Obamacare issue brought several more Repubicans to support a Dem initiative.

Tatiffs? Ukraine? Russian Sanctions.

Impeachment! https://www.removetheregime.com/

Removal coalition

We have an open window of opportunity.

If we can get three (3) Republicans, we can issue subpoenas, hold hearings.

Jerry Weiss scenario. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/

On Thursday, the Senate voted to advance a bill that would stop the Trump administration from additional attacks on Venezuela without congressional approval. The vote was 52–47 with five Republicans joining all the Democrats to move the measure forward. Republicans killed a similar measure in November, but Trump’s enormously unpopular incursion into Venezuela and threats against Greenland prompted five Republicans to reassert congressional authority over military action. CNN called it “a notable rebuke of the president.”

The five Republicans voting for the bill were Susan Collins of Maine, Josh Hawley of Missouri, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Todd Young of Indiana.

Immediately, Trump posted on social media that the five “should never be elected to office again.” By reasserting the power of Congress, he wrote, they were “attempting to take away our Powers to fight and defend the United States of America.”

Trump is in a pickle. Here is Baghdad By the Sea, at least one House MAGAT, my rep, opposes him on immigration. Many other House Republicans oppose him on the Epstein coverup. Others on the Obamacare issue. It's up to us to convince more to join them.

In Minnesota Congressional Republicans need to be pressured. We need to contact their donors. Local businesses. Local Holy Joes. Picket. Sit in.

The current Republican U.S. representatives for Minnesota are:

District 1: Brad Finstad (since August 12, 2022)

District 6: Tom Emmer (since January 3, 2015)

District 7: Michelle Fischbach (since January 3, 2021)

District 8: Pete Stauber (since January 3, 2019)

Local Fox outlet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMSP-TV

Cyn B's avatar

Tillis. Another coward who enabled all this and then squawked as he is walking out the door.

nmgirl's avatar

Lower courts are slowing him down, but scrotus still stands with him.

Jay Jay Eh's avatar

The tide is turning there too … to what degree remains to be seen.

But they are reported to have been initially DUBIOUS about his tariff wars.

Cyn B's avatar

Right now no one is enforcing the courts but I believe Congress CAN assert themselves over funding, eg ICE draining our treasury, if they want to.

Cindy Schaufenbuel's avatar

The other alternative is to leave Trump with his Congressional majorities. There are no guarantees, but I know which of these two outcomes has a better chance of course correction.

Don Kennedy's avatar

Yep. And if Congress restricts the ICE funding, Trump will simply take funding from somewhere else and apply it to the ICE; that department will never be defunded if he can help it, and he can, as it is his own private army.

Jay Jay Eh's avatar

Nevertheless it shouldn’t be made easy for him & congress needs to be SEEN taking a stand … and KEEP doing so!

Marianne G's avatar

Great comment, Jay Jay Eh - regardless of trump's actions, there should be a constant and very visible fight to take back our country and our Democracy and uphold the rule of law. It's the reason I subscribe to The Contrarian.

vhenlie's avatar

If tmpf "..does not accept the authority of Congress over the purse," (and most everything else), then my elected Senators and Representatives have no ability to represent me. "NO TAXATION WTHOUT REPRESENTATION."

Ellie still in the mix in 26's avatar

He doesn't accept it because the Republican Congress has turned the power of the purse, over to him, willingly. Because they care more for Party, Power, and Pelf than Constitution and Country.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

That's a big "maybe" when related to any future election under this regime Thomas.

Rich Stockton's avatar

I am concerned, not in a Susan Collins sense, more of a Passenger on the Titanic sense.

Cyn B's avatar

He is going to drain our Treasury and bankrupt our entire country if Congress does not do something and I believe they can if they would have the damned will to do it.

Charles's avatar

In the sense you fear the captain is sinking the ship? I have the same "concerns".

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

Your concern it's not misplaced Rich. On the other hand, I'm not just concerned but also terrified because of the daily news coming out of this regime and it's actions.

Jason's avatar

Don’t just “restrict ICE” . An organization openly full of white supremacists can’t be redeemed.

Abolish ICE.

Jay Jay Eh's avatar

Even making it operate within its current regulations wd be helpful.

Better yet — IMPEACH NOEM — then Trump! 💥https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5689359-house-homeland-democrats-kristi-noem-impeachment/

Swbv's avatar
Jan 14Edited

It's well past the time when we can look to the most senior among our own government for a sense of decency to rein in ICE and CBP. If you let bullies run wild, they will. Ever since kindergarten. Indeed, I think Trump himself has always been a bully. So looking for an underlying decency to emanate from the White House is no longer on the table.

Charles Peake's avatar

Dems wont be able to tame them. Most ICE are basically the same people who stormed the capital - extremist, unhappy, arrogant, covert racists - COS playing as petty tyrants. Expanding the ICE project and paying really well has attracted a lot of these mentally challenged insecure men - and of course it would if they would be paid 3 times more. ICE needs to be disbanded and people prosecuted and jailed.

Parkin Hunter's avatar

We must get these dimocrats (not a typo) out of office as opportunities arise:

Per ChatGPt and me. All of these must be opposed. Not proofed.

“Democrats reported as having not supported or refused to say they will vote to defund ICE (as of the most recent sources):

   •   Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) — refused to back defunding ICE or cut its funding.

   •   Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) — likewise declined to pursue funding cuts to ICE.

   •   Vicente Gonzalez (D-Texas) — expressed doubt about needing to defund ICE.

   •   Jared Golden (D-Maine) — said he doesn’t believe in defunding ICE.

   •   Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.) — said he isn’t interested in defunding ICE. “

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_69663bee45148191a96999873a1000a0

Wendy horgan's avatar

Stabbed in the back by those supposed to keep us safe.

As indivisible is saying, primary, primary, primary.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

I know the intention of saying the defunded, but I think it would be great to stop the use of that word and find another word for restricting access to funding. Others have said this and I’m not sure what the word should be but it needs to be different. Maybe different levels of funding dependent upon initiating controls and boundaries. And adhering to those controls and boundaries.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

“Replace/Reform ICE” this phrase was in Hubbell‘s column and a comment today, asking as I did, to use a different phrase than defund. I like this-replace/reform

Susan Iwanisziw's avatar

Are their sentiments the same following Renee Good’s murder and the administration’s vicious attempt at shielding the shooter?

Parkin Hunter's avatar

Cannot unring the bell. I am a firm believer that how people treat animals tells a lot. Killing her dog should have been all it took not to affirm her.

Elvi's avatar

Acid test. Cruelty disqualifies.

Robert Manz's avatar

Yes. Go for it. I like your all-in strategy. I would go further. NO MORE MONEY FOR SS ICE.

vhenlie's avatar

If we want to defund ICE, we must not pay federal taxes this year. Our taxes are paying for ICE, illegal military operations, etc., etc. Congress, our "representation," has been ignored and bypassed by this administrration. Need a huge movement of millions of people who agree: No taxation without representation.

Paulette Lincoln-Baker's avatar

I totally agree. No fed taxes this year.

Rockville Bob's avatar

I think it’s wrong to assume ICE agents are not following their training. It appears their tactics of intimidation, assault and murder are uniform across the agency, strongly suggesting that the agents on the street are doing as they are told. Indeed, a quick internet image search reveals a wide assortment of recruitment posters with messages such as “Protect your homeland, Defend your culture” which no doubt are designed to attract those willing and eager to perpetrate violence against others.

Prisoner of Planet Moron's avatar

"... something out of 1930’s fascist Europe ..."

Give Mussolini some credit. His black shirt thugs of the 1920s were the inspiration for Hitler's brown shirts. Note that the European thugs were much more courageous than our home-grown variety. The Europeans wore neither face masks nor full combat gear. We have not only thugs with guns but thugs who are afraid to show their faces.

Swbv's avatar

Can anyone imagine Goldwater, Romney, Mansfield, or even George Bush letting ICE run wild, not holding them back, and not calling to account the never ending depredations of Noem, Homan, Bovino? What has become of the USA and especially the GOP under MAGA? We know Mike Johnson either hasn't heard about it or is sitting on his hands.

"The lack of training and shoot-first-ask-no-questions-later mentality have turned our streets into something out of 1930’s fascist Europe. ICE and other federal agents disregard accepted, safe law enforcement practices. “The Minneapolis shooting shares characteristics with others the Journal reviewed: Agents box in a vehicle, try to remove an individual, block attempts to flee, then fire,” the Journal reported"

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

When even the Wall Street Journal writes reports like that you know you’re in trouble!

Mark D Olson's avatar

"Republicans need to decide whether they want to be complicit in Trump's descent into depravity. Democrats must force them to make that choice in full view of the voters" Thank you Jen Rubin! This should be on bill boards al over the country!

Sophia Demas's avatar

This is exactly why I want to commend the 12 prosecutors who have walked off their jobs this past week to protest against the DOJ. At first, DOJ and MN Bureau of Apprehension agreed to investigate the killing of Renee Nicole Good in routine fashion. Then, DOJ abruptly announced they would not cooperate but conduct their own investigation. I cannot stop thinking about the news that broke out yesterday--the criminal department of the DOJ will not investigate Jonathan Ross, the agent who murdered Good but instead investigate Renee Good and her widows's political activities when they were reportedly not activists. Investigate the victims?? This is totally outrageous!! They are giving Ross a pass for what we all saw--him brutal shooting Good after she kindly tried to dissuade the situation. This cannot be allowed to stand!

KnockKnockGreenpeace's avatar

Ross's actions also indict the system that did not take him out of field after a traumatic incident with a vehicle 6 months ago. Not only did they put him back into the same circumstances, they exchanged his Taser for live ammunition, and now someone is dead. And it's not him.

Eleanor Duffield's avatar

Where is the vision? Where are goals and objectives? Where are methods and materials? Where is viable leadership, not just words? How will Republicans in the House and Senate be brought to the reality of the damage to our constitutional republic and held accountable? Jen Rubin is a voice to be heard and digested.

Michelle Jordan's avatar

So many disturbing things happening in the Trump regime it’s scary. ICE having permission to murder in cold blood American citizens. Taking over a sovereign country without congressional approval and now he wants to buy Greenland. The message is clear make the GOP accountable for what they’ve allowed.

Karen's avatar

It’s amazing that a worthless Congress -and yes, they are-cannot recognize that Trump is mentally ill. And more amazing that this incapable Congress wants to advance his illness when he needs treatments. Trump is sick. Yes, he’s also often incoherent, always Evil, nasty, cruel and thoughtless. Trump is sick and this Congress allows him the Presidency. In reality, he is a Domestic Terrorist and a Treasonous Traitor that no one stops. The GOP could stop hm if they would stop hm but my guess is that their kickbacks are too cozy to stand up and speak out. Sorry, but I have to include spineless Democrats too. Look around you-masked people illegally killing and kidnapping Americans with a threat “home grown” is next! That’s you! It’s a good option to frequently dial 202-224-3121 and tell your Members of Congress what’s on your mind. WE are the recourse and we cannot beg a complicit Congress but we can drive their switchboards crazy with thousands of calls.

Bill's avatar

Sorry, but it is not "they are-cannot recognize that Trump is mentally ill." They know exactly what Trump is doing and why. They are NOT, as many may believe, being fooled! They are just as committed to the resegregation of our country and to establishing a Christian Government, much like those in Iran, Israel, Poland, and others have done over the years! Please don't believe that these politicians are being fooled; they are complicit and support every action Trump takes!

samani's avatar

Jen, it’s been shocking for me to see my US rep as well as a State Senator look frightened and yes, literally back away from me whenever I say ICE! Of course, I’ve told others in this area about both of them. (One only won his seat by a fraction of the vote:-) I’m taking today ’off’ from my usual patten of going out and doing. Staying in to call call call: my hair’s on fire!!🔥