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I think everybody is looking at this all wrong. The bottom line is the Republicans are not going to allow the healthcare subsidies for ACA participants.
Now think about this. With the subsidies gone, healthcare rates are going to go through the roof. The Democrats can sit back and say we told you, we warned you, we tried to do everything to alleviate and prevent this, and the Republicans just wouldn't let it pass.
Who's gonna be a fault when those premiums go out?
I was about to post something similar. The shutdown pain was really starting to hurt voters and everyone in DC would get the blame. Now voters will have a chance to "enjoy" GOP policies first hand thru soaring healthcare costs prior to the mid terms.
Lemons make lemonade. NOT A DEAL.... takes both houses of Congress. Terms can be renegotiated.
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.): Co-sponsored bipartisan legislation to extend the Obamacare subsidies for a year, indicating an openness to compromise.
Rep. Jeff Hurd (R-Colo.): Has voiced concern over the "dramatic increases" in premiums his constituents would face without the subsidies and was one of more than a dozen House Republicans to sign a letter calling for their preservation.
Rep. Jen Kiggans (R-Va.): The main sponsor of a bill to extend the subsidies for a year.
With respect to the Senate vote, it's not over. It will bring the House back to session. Jeffries says he'll hold the line. May lead to further negotiations.
Hopefully it'll be Epstein time. The most recent revelations involve money laudering allegations.
I keep posting. According to Congressman Eric Swalwell (D-CA) Trumpepstein may cause an "Epstein bomb" causing over 100 Republican members to "jailbreak" from Trump.
Rocket Master Man: The Rich Republicans have NEVER wanted health care, at least since FDR and Eleanor made it and Social Security into policy. It seems to me there is a huge group of people who have made what was a loose social club into a major tribe exclusive to the rich and to those who hold corporate power, to the exclusion of everyone else on the planet. One offshoot of their self-serving manipulation is the proliferation of lobbyists in Washington D C.
One thing comes clear as they live and breathe--the principles of intelligence and excellence are not the exclusive right of the rich, the concrete manifestation of those principles doesn't necessarily "follow the money," and certainly not the bloodlines, but rather, if they once were a part of these people's lives, they are commonly corrupted by it.
And how many more citizens will die, go undiagnosed with treatable conditions, have to declare bankruptcy from overwhelming medical debt, and how many hospitals will have to close due to the inability to pay staff & other operational expenses?
Not "for nothing"! There's already been enough suffering, and nothing can wipe that away. There isn't really enough time before the next general election for our fellow Americans to forget the lesson: modern Republicans do not believe in any form of shared responsibility for the common weal. Increased health insurance costs will be widely felt and painful. Voters will remember; not all, but enough to help our nation recover in '27.
Do we really believe Congress -- both houses -- is going to leave their constituents without health care, without some sort of help with premium costs? Are the Rs really set on losing in 2026? What's the point of all this posturing? Oh wait, it's Big Daddy who makes ultimate threats. Will we ever get back to 2 political parties that embrace being Grand Coalitions?
Eleanor: If it was boring, we probably also took it for granted and so didn't teach it with the idea that what we and they took for granted , . . wasn't.
I "woke up" to the political dangers of world history when I saw film clips from the "camps" in WWII. Horrible, but certainly not boring.
Also, I substituted in a class of 5th graders one time where a little South American boy had arrived a month before from one of South American countries with a fascist regime. I was to cover a section on civics and, during the conversation with a rowdy bunch of kids who were "bored," that little boy stood up and told everyone how he came to the United States because his uncle had been "disappeared'" in the middle of the night one night, and they never saw him again. His story was so intense--everyone paid attention . . . no one was bored.
Thank you for sharing this reality check. Those 5th graders may remember to this day a lesson well learned. Back in the day helping students understand how a bill becomes a law was manageable. Not sure how I'd approach that today other than working through how it's supposed to happen. Once the process is understood perhaps maturing minds with critical thinking skills could work through the morass of today. Explaining abject cruelty as a government funds is more of a challenge.
The Democrats traded away their leverage for a promise of a vote?!? A VOTE? Gimme a break-- that's a pro forma vote that they will lose. And even if they win, the House won't pass it.
A boneless chicken breast has more spine than those 8 do! To quote the Bible, they traded their birthright for a bowl of lentils-- and I hope they choke on them!
Chuck Schumer needs to throw his flip-phone in the garbage, and follow it into the can. The quote from The Godfather "you're not a wartime consigliere, Tom" fits well. This is a bare-knuckles brawl and Schumer fights like Little Lord Fauntleroy.
During the Civil War, people were urging Lincoln to fire General Grant because of his drinking. Lincoln's response was "I can't spare that man, he fights!". Well, Schumer ain't no General Grant. With any luck he'll read the writing on the wall and either step down as Minority Leader, or at least not run for re-election. The times have passed him by.
So many excellent columns today. Tim Dickinson and Jen explain the 8 Democrats who capitulated on the shutdown and again on Coffee with the Contrarians with April Ryan and Juan Perano. All excellent discussions.
Ezra Levin makes an excellent point that there was likely a group of democratic senators who collectively made the decision who would cast the capitulation votes. As he describes the group of 8 are either leaving Congress or not up for reelection in 2026. Not a coincidence. I would like to know more about who this group was because they should definitely be primary’d. Shame on all of them for caving when we had them (GOP) on the ropes!
I think everybody is looking at this all wrong. The bottom line is the Republicans are not going to allow the healthcare subsidies for ACA participants.
Now think about this. With the subsidies gone, healthcare rates are going to go through the roof. The Democrats can sit back and say we told you, we warned you, we tried to do everything to alleviate and prevent this, and the Republicans just wouldn't let it pass.
Who's gonna be a fault when those premiums go out?
Ain't no Democrats responsible.
I was about to post something similar. The shutdown pain was really starting to hurt voters and everyone in DC would get the blame. Now voters will have a chance to "enjoy" GOP policies first hand thru soaring healthcare costs prior to the mid terms.
Lemons make lemonade. NOT A DEAL.... takes both houses of Congress. Terms can be renegotiated.
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.): Co-sponsored bipartisan legislation to extend the Obamacare subsidies for a year, indicating an openness to compromise.
Rep. Jeff Hurd (R-Colo.): Has voiced concern over the "dramatic increases" in premiums his constituents would face without the subsidies and was one of more than a dozen House Republicans to sign a letter calling for their preservation.
Rep. Jen Kiggans (R-Va.): The main sponsor of a bill to extend the subsidies for a year.
With respect to the Senate vote, it's not over. It will bring the House back to session. Jeffries says he'll hold the line. May lead to further negotiations.
Hopefully it'll be Epstein time. The most recent revelations involve money laudering allegations.
Many Congressional Republicans privately admit Trump is nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNzVt7q0W5A
I keep posting. According to Congressman Eric Swalwell (D-CA) Trumpepstein may cause an "Epstein bomb" causing over 100 Republican members to "jailbreak" from Trump.
Massive Congressional visits November 18.
https://www.instagram.com/flare.usa/p/DP_mdOyjdiG/
Visit CongressionalRepublicans.
https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/event/851451/
I think that if we play our cards right, many can be convinced by the election outcome to come forward.
Rocket Master Man: The Rich Republicans have NEVER wanted health care, at least since FDR and Eleanor made it and Social Security into policy. It seems to me there is a huge group of people who have made what was a loose social club into a major tribe exclusive to the rich and to those who hold corporate power, to the exclusion of everyone else on the planet. One offshoot of their self-serving manipulation is the proliferation of lobbyists in Washington D C.
One thing comes clear as they live and breathe--the principles of intelligence and excellence are not the exclusive right of the rich, the concrete manifestation of those principles doesn't necessarily "follow the money," and certainly not the bloodlines, but rather, if they once were a part of these people's lives, they are commonly corrupted by it.
And how many more citizens will die, go undiagnosed with treatable conditions, have to declare bankruptcy from overwhelming medical debt, and how many hospitals will have to close due to the inability to pay staff & other operational expenses?
M
trump is a sociopath...he cares little for his subjects need for healthcare or food
Not "for nothing"! There's already been enough suffering, and nothing can wipe that away. There isn't really enough time before the next general election for our fellow Americans to forget the lesson: modern Republicans do not believe in any form of shared responsibility for the common weal. Increased health insurance costs will be widely felt and painful. Voters will remember; not all, but enough to help our nation recover in '27.
"Voters will remember," yes . . . if we get there quite literally in one piece and relatively unscathed.
Do we really believe Congress -- both houses -- is going to leave their constituents without health care, without some sort of help with premium costs? Are the Rs really set on losing in 2026? What's the point of all this posturing? Oh wait, it's Big Daddy who makes ultimate threats. Will we ever get back to 2 political parties that embrace being Grand Coalitions?
Maybe not in our lifetimes.
I enjoyed teaching government and politics to high school seniors when there was more predictability, even boredom.
Eleanor: If it was boring, we probably also took it for granted and so didn't teach it with the idea that what we and they took for granted , . . wasn't.
I "woke up" to the political dangers of world history when I saw film clips from the "camps" in WWII. Horrible, but certainly not boring.
Also, I substituted in a class of 5th graders one time where a little South American boy had arrived a month before from one of South American countries with a fascist regime. I was to cover a section on civics and, during the conversation with a rowdy bunch of kids who were "bored," that little boy stood up and told everyone how he came to the United States because his uncle had been "disappeared'" in the middle of the night one night, and they never saw him again. His story was so intense--everyone paid attention . . . no one was bored.
Thank you for sharing this reality check. Those 5th graders may remember to this day a lesson well learned. Back in the day helping students understand how a bill becomes a law was manageable. Not sure how I'd approach that today other than working through how it's supposed to happen. Once the process is understood perhaps maturing minds with critical thinking skills could work through the morass of today. Explaining abject cruelty as a government funds is more of a challenge.
The Democrats traded away their leverage for a promise of a vote?!? A VOTE? Gimme a break-- that's a pro forma vote that they will lose. And even if they win, the House won't pass it.
A boneless chicken breast has more spine than those 8 do! To quote the Bible, they traded their birthright for a bowl of lentils-- and I hope they choke on them!
Chuck Schumer needs to throw his flip-phone in the garbage, and follow it into the can. The quote from The Godfather "you're not a wartime consigliere, Tom" fits well. This is a bare-knuckles brawl and Schumer fights like Little Lord Fauntleroy.
During the Civil War, people were urging Lincoln to fire General Grant because of his drinking. Lincoln's response was "I can't spare that man, he fights!". Well, Schumer ain't no General Grant. With any luck he'll read the writing on the wall and either step down as Minority Leader, or at least not run for re-election. The times have passed him by.
So many excellent columns today. Tim Dickinson and Jen explain the 8 Democrats who capitulated on the shutdown and again on Coffee with the Contrarians with April Ryan and Juan Perano. All excellent discussions.
Democrats WON the Shutdown? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZDK6T79mto Eyes on the Prize #VoteBlue
Democrats WON the Shutdown? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZDK6T79mto Eyes on the Prize #VoteBlue
Ezra Levin makes an excellent point that there was likely a group of democratic senators who collectively made the decision who would cast the capitulation votes. As he describes the group of 8 are either leaving Congress or not up for reelection in 2026. Not a coincidence. I would like to know more about who this group was because they should definitely be primary’d. Shame on all of them for caving when we had them (GOP) on the ropes!