These NAR people are the reason why I have such a profound dislike of organized religion. It is folks like this that have caused untold suffering throughout the world and throughout history. They are the Inquisition, the witch hunters, the jihadists, the crusaders who kill with impunity while wrapping themselves in a cloak of righteousness. They have none of the morality associated with the benevolent teachings of their various faiths. They are murderers and frauds and liars, and they are to be feared because they will burn down the world to "save" us. If there is a nuclear attack in our future, you can bet your bottom dollar "the Hand of God" is behind it.
If all this gives these pastors such a spiritual boner, why aren’t they bravely leading their cowardly congregations over there to hasten the arrival of the end? Oh, right. Only the unanoited have to die.
These are mind-boggling and abhorrent ideas to other Christians. Although debating Christian Nationalists is probably futile, here are some questions I'm pretty sure they would have a tough time answering?
-- Where did you get the idea — and the hubris — that you speak for all American Christians?
-- If God is sovereign and omnipotent, why does He need Donald Trump, Pete Hegseth, Lance Wallnau, or any mortal to execute His plan? Wouldn't the Creator of the universe manage the end times on His own timeline?
-- Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers." Can you show me where He amended that to "Blessed are the war-makers, if the war is prophetic"?
-- If Trump is God's chosen instrument, how do you reconcile that with the fact that he himself doesn't believe he needs God's forgiveness?
-- You call yourselves Christians. Where in the Gospels did Jesus express hatred toward any religion, including Islam?
-- When you pray for war to hasten the Last Days, are you also praying for all the human beings — soldiers, civilians, children — who will die to make that happen?
-- When Jesus returns, do you really believe He'll say, "Well done — you started the war I needed"?
Totally agree. As a Christian, however, I find far too many of our fellow adherents willing to agree to anything Trump does in the name of “Christianity.” How do we address these supposed Christian brethren? I am disheartened almost to the point of disclaiming my faith.
As someone who grew up in a traditional Christian family, These people look to be farther from Christianity than the people they abhor---or maybe even more that the people they abhor.
Matthew 24:36 “ But about that day no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
If Jesus Christ himself does not claim knowledge of when or how the “end times” come about, who gives people like Lance Wallnau, Sean Feucht or Paula White superior knowledge? Give me a freakin’ break.
This is frightening. To believe that Trump, Rubio, and Hegseth are “marching with God’s army “is nuts. And they have powerful positions in our government. And they think Armageddon is around the corner. And these people feel like they’re ready for the second coming and even playing a role in bringing it about.
When I see these right wing grifters lining their pockets in the name of religion, I always think of Matthew 19:24 -- "...it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
It always comes down to John 11:35 -- "Jesus wept."
How are they different from ISIS or other Islamic fundamentalists who believe their faith calls them to kill infidels to bring about the spread of the one true faith? Do these ignorant people even know of modern scholarly opinions on who wrote the Book of Revelation and why and when? If everyone who disagrees with them is possessed by demons, how about considering that they may be mentally deranged themselves, like many fanatics of different religions?
They could simply take a look at what Elaine Pagels or Bart Ehrman have to say on the subject, either on YouTube or in their books (if they can still read without being transported in their Biblical ecstasies of self-glorification as vessels of a vengeful lord). See the links:
Thank you for this column… as utterly disturbing as it is. This needs to reach a wider audience and be picked up by national media sources and/or highly placed, legitimate, religious leaders. … I hear the criticism that some have of “organized religion,” but not all of them espouse such a faulty, warped sense of God and the Bible.
For me, as a Lutheran (ELCA) Deacon, I think that God / the Holy / the Divine is known by many names, and found by many pathways and religious writings.
That “NAR” group is crazy.
As *if* any one group of humans can claim they know the Holy One’s design for everyone else, and that only those with a very warped Christianity have all the answers.
I've been folowing NAR an d Dominionism for a long time. From a psychological , emotionsl, and
Moral development standpoint these positions are neither adult nor healthy. The hierarchical thinking. Seeing tne would and its people as being with me or against me, unilaterally imposing ones wishes on others... these are all quite early developmental stages. My question during these times is how to rekindle adult functioning in a civic culture that has, for multiple reasons, regressed to early levels of emotional and moral functioning.
These NAR people are the reason why I have such a profound dislike of organized religion. It is folks like this that have caused untold suffering throughout the world and throughout history. They are the Inquisition, the witch hunters, the jihadists, the crusaders who kill with impunity while wrapping themselves in a cloak of righteousness. They have none of the morality associated with the benevolent teachings of their various faiths. They are murderers and frauds and liars, and they are to be feared because they will burn down the world to "save" us. If there is a nuclear attack in our future, you can bet your bottom dollar "the Hand of God" is behind it.
If all this gives these pastors such a spiritual boner, why aren’t they bravely leading their cowardly congregations over there to hasten the arrival of the end? Oh, right. Only the unanoited have to die.
These are mind-boggling and abhorrent ideas to other Christians. Although debating Christian Nationalists is probably futile, here are some questions I'm pretty sure they would have a tough time answering?
-- Where did you get the idea — and the hubris — that you speak for all American Christians?
-- If God is sovereign and omnipotent, why does He need Donald Trump, Pete Hegseth, Lance Wallnau, or any mortal to execute His plan? Wouldn't the Creator of the universe manage the end times on His own timeline?
-- Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers." Can you show me where He amended that to "Blessed are the war-makers, if the war is prophetic"?
-- If Trump is God's chosen instrument, how do you reconcile that with the fact that he himself doesn't believe he needs God's forgiveness?
-- You call yourselves Christians. Where in the Gospels did Jesus express hatred toward any religion, including Islam?
-- When you pray for war to hasten the Last Days, are you also praying for all the human beings — soldiers, civilians, children — who will die to make that happen?
-- When Jesus returns, do you really believe He'll say, "Well done — you started the war I needed"?
Totally agree. As a Christian, however, I find far too many of our fellow adherents willing to agree to anything Trump does in the name of “Christianity.” How do we address these supposed Christian brethren? I am disheartened almost to the point of disclaiming my faith.
Never abandon your faith! They are kkkristians!
Where did they get the idea….? Trump’s bible!
It is a shameful and utterly baseless theology to think that war with Iran is somehow “part of God’s plan.”
Blasphemy they used to call it!
As someone who grew up in a traditional Christian family, These people look to be farther from Christianity than the people they abhor---or maybe even more that the people they abhor.
Matthew 24:36 “ But about that day no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
If Jesus Christ himself does not claim knowledge of when or how the “end times” come about, who gives people like Lance Wallnau, Sean Feucht or Paula White superior knowledge? Give me a freakin’ break.
Matt 24:36 has been redacted from their rule book!
The nutters coming out of the woodwork, which is no surprise when looking at the orange dumpster's entire regime personnel.
BINGO… you nailed it. I refer to their nurturing ground as a cesspool, not dumpster!
This is frightening. To believe that Trump, Rubio, and Hegseth are “marching with God’s army “is nuts. And they have powerful positions in our government. And they think Armageddon is around the corner. And these people feel like they’re ready for the second coming and even playing a role in bringing it about.
Trump does believe in anything but himself!
No question about that. He’ll fake caring about others, but only cares about himself.
I m just cynical enough to think Drumpf likes the laying on of hands because it gives him a chance to close his eyes and snooze with impunity.
When I see these right wing grifters lining their pockets in the name of religion, I always think of Matthew 19:24 -- "...it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
It always comes down to John 11:35 -- "Jesus wept."
How are they different from ISIS or other Islamic fundamentalists who believe their faith calls them to kill infidels to bring about the spread of the one true faith? Do these ignorant people even know of modern scholarly opinions on who wrote the Book of Revelation and why and when? If everyone who disagrees with them is possessed by demons, how about considering that they may be mentally deranged themselves, like many fanatics of different religions?
They could simply take a look at what Elaine Pagels or Bart Ehrman have to say on the subject, either on YouTube or in their books (if they can still read without being transported in their Biblical ecstasies of self-glorification as vessels of a vengeful lord). See the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_L4_LmqImY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhhLdZPnfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-reoYHKUw
Thank you for this column… as utterly disturbing as it is. This needs to reach a wider audience and be picked up by national media sources and/or highly placed, legitimate, religious leaders. … I hear the criticism that some have of “organized religion,” but not all of them espouse such a faulty, warped sense of God and the Bible.
For me, as a Lutheran (ELCA) Deacon, I think that God / the Holy / the Divine is known by many names, and found by many pathways and religious writings.
That “NAR” group is crazy.
As *if* any one group of humans can claim they know the Holy One’s design for everyone else, and that only those with a very warped Christianity have all the answers.
I’m an atheist but if anyone is the Antichrist, it’s Trump. These people are scary.
Watching just part of these videos makes my skin crawl. These are frightening people. They talk about the Gospel without true understanding.
I've been folowing NAR an d Dominionism for a long time. From a psychological , emotionsl, and
Moral development standpoint these positions are neither adult nor healthy. The hierarchical thinking. Seeing tne would and its people as being with me or against me, unilaterally imposing ones wishes on others... these are all quite early developmental stages. My question during these times is how to rekindle adult functioning in a civic culture that has, for multiple reasons, regressed to early levels of emotional and moral functioning.
More likely God is punishing the United States by allowing tRUMP to remain alive despite all his horrendous acts.