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Debbie Rakestraw's avatar

What “ leftwing organizations that are promoting violence in this country" is Miller talking about? I am seriously asking the question, because I am familiar with a lot of liberal/progressive organizations and none of them espoused violence!

Debbie Rakestraw's avatar

And while I'm at it, Vance really needs to get a grip - the EVIDENCE shows the preponderance of violent threats come from right. Simply saying it's the left like he and Miller do does not make it so. Again, Trump et al have a vast store of alternative facts that their followers have bought - hook, libe, and sinker.

Ivan Tufaart's avatar

Vontz (it's Yiddish, look it up) is not stupid, and he knows damn well who is perpetrating the majority of political violence. It's just that it's in his interest to lie, knowingly.

Annie D Stratton's avatar

I know a number of people named Vance and none of them are Jewish. I did look Vontz up: no reference to Yiddish but apparently it is an uncommon German name. Linguistics aside, I 'm not sure what point you are attempting to make with that statement.

Marc Panaye's avatar

Dear Debbie, the not so merry gang of the elected convicted felon do not do facts or truth.

Greg Lesoine's avatar

Thanks to the authors for putting FACTS to paper and highlighting, yet again, the complete dishonesty that is broadcast by the Trump regime. Anyone with their eyes and ears open can ascertain that it is, in fact, the political right that marinates in hate speech and violent rhetoric.

Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Vance's raw ambition and glaring inability to tell the truth is so obvious, he makes the felon-in-chief look almost truthful. With trump? He's a showman, he knows how to finesse the lie and always has an alibi tucked up his sleeve. With the Vance? He's a boot licking amateur. His novel about Appalachia has proven to have been sold under the wrong genre. It's complete fiction gussied up with snippets of truth. His moral compass is nonexistent. His anticipation of trump's demise and his being the next president borders on being a national embarrassment. He's so eager to be the next liar in chief. He's so eager to continue the Project 2025 agenda of making America irrelavant and scorned around the world.

He's not charismatic, he's not user friendly, he makes it quite clear that women are 4th class citizens, those who are darker than milk are to be scorned and are suspect, he alleges he's a Christian, but by his very actions, he belies Jesus' teachings. He doesn't care for those who aren't already financially secure. The very thought of Stephen Miller, Reinhard Heydrich come back to life, running this country is enough to make sleep impossible for a very long time.

Whatever the two wannabe dictators say, the opposite is true. The could screw up a junk yard.

Brenda Lillge's avatar

Every accusation is a confession.

patricia's avatar

so, will vance drop his brown wife and marry mrs charlie when he tries to run for pres in 2028...

KnockKnockGreenpeace's avatar

When you vote for conspiracy theorists, you get conspiracy theories. That's all they've got. Notably, when they're not anonymous, they become targets for people who don't like that shit. Maybe stick to Twitter with an avatar, JD.

Michelle Jordan's avatar

I knew Vance was disgusting the first time he opened his mouth. Bigoted, racist, sexist, misogynist Trumpty Dumpty.

Barbara's avatar

I was interested in the poll Vance cited so I went to the link. First, of course, this is an opinion poll suggesting that there is a slight difference in the sizes of the small minorities of people who say that political violence might be necessary/acceptable in some circumstances, between those who say they are liberal and those who say they are conservative. That poll says nothing at all about who committed political violence, which of course Vance isn't citing or ever going to admit to. But I did have one reaction: based on the leadup to today where Fox News' fictionalized and radicalized version of the news is apparently the one most people listen to, I suspect many people are convinced that their "reporting", Left Wing violence IS more prevalent. I have heard and read ordinary conservatives asserting that Portland, Oregon, Chicago and other cities were burned down and decimated by the violent Black Lives Matter protests--a belief not remotely supported by facts. Other government lies, like the eating pets and gangs "taking over" towns, fuel this belief. While real news (even the despised MSM) show that current protests are markedly non-violent (thank all the gods we on the left are aware of the danger), it is clear that the Faux news is going to show the few incidents where someone has stepped between an ICE thug and their victim, making it look like a protestor initiated an attack (or threw a sandwich). So it is something we have to work against, that the kleptocracy is going to advance false narratives to keep this going. I was a little relieved that Orangeman declared war on "Antifa" as though it were actually an organization. Of course, they are likely to treat every leftish organization the way they are treating brown skinned men with tattoos...

Annie D Stratton's avatar

I think my next sign is going to be "Danger: little old lady ANTIFA-SCIST"

Nancy K's avatar

Thank you for arming me with truth.

Ivan Tufaart's avatar

Things are bad when we're reduced to praying but I pray that at least 2 of the 6 Nazi political hacks on the SCROTUS (and you know who you are, Roberts, Barrett, Gorsuch, Kavanagh, Thomas and Alito) will see this as a bridge too far.

But I'm not placing any bets!

Pat Jones Garcia's avatar

Good write-up though sadly shows how the president is NOT doing a president's job but going after anyone who disagrees with his warped vision of autocracy. Why aren't our Congresspeople able to charge Trump and his minions with failure to run our country per our laws, due process, etc?