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Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

I can't believe there isn't a single word here about Israel's immediate violation of the 'ceasefire' yesterday when it launched a massive bomb attack on densely populated areas in Beirut and other areas in Lebanon only hours after the agreement was enacted, killing over 250 men, women and children.

The Contrarian continues to entirely ignore Israel's assault on Lebanon that has now killed nearly 1800 people in just the past 5 weeks, while barely saying anything about Israel's many attacks on Iran's civilian infrastructure and residences.

The only mention of Israel here is that the ceasefire was a 'defeat' which may increase Iran's 'ability to wreak havoc'.

What about Israel's 'ability to wreak havoc' in Iran, in Lebanon, in so many other places in the past two years, along with its partner, the US?

Does The Contrarian even acknowledge this illegal and unprovoked war was brought by an alliance of the US and Israel?

Janice Darling's avatar

I think the very nature of the so-called ”alliance” between Israel and Trump /the Christian nationalists needs to be brought into the spotlight. The nation and Congress have no idea what the parameters and agreements of this alliance is, how and when and by whom it was crafted, how long it is to last. Are these two armed conflicts essentially independent? Is Israel at the table during Iran/US “negotiations”? Do they have a say in the Iran outcome separate from the US? Do they consider Lebanon a separate issue? And what is Russia’s role in all of this mess? The whole situation stinks to high heaven.

Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

That is all certainly true. It seems clear the only country that knew the war was being planned, and of course was involved in that planning, was not any of our NATO allies, but Israel. None one seems to have any concrete plan at all for any of this.

I would go further though - the entire special, very unique, and very toxic relationship between the US and Israel needs to be, at the very least, fundamentally re-examined. Trump and the Christian nationalists are no doubt a big part of the problem, but I'd say its even bigger than that.

In the past few years, this alliance of aggression has killed at least 100,00 people in several countries and regions, made millions more homeless, and has committed countless war crimes.

Bob Kroshefsky's avatar

I wouldn't be too hard on Jen as, after all, no one here has any control over what Israel does and, besides, the campaign money that flows from Zionist Americans is too good for any national politician of any party to give up.

Any person with a smidgen of analytical ability knows that this disaster was concocted by Netanyahu, who simply lead a gullible Trump by the nose.

Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

While this may be true, none of that explains why Jennifer Rubin and The Contrarian continue to completely ignore major facets of this war, especially regarding Israel's attacks on Lebanon, but even Israel's general involvement.

She doesn't have to have any control over what Israel does to report crucial and important news, like Israel's brazen ceasefire violation and mass killing of hundreds of civilians in broad daylight, in one of the biggest single assaults of the entire war so far. That's what journalists are supposed to do, right?

It's not even just today either...look back on the past weeks daily newsletters from Rubin. She barely even mentions Israel at all, and the very few times she does, its in some other context, not about Israel's actual, ongoing, illegal actions and its full partnership with the US.

Bob Kroshefsky's avatar

I don't disagree with anything you've said. The support the U.S. has given Israel since the Hamas attack in 2023 has been obscene and Joe Biden bears a LOT of responsibility for that due to his doddering tunnel-vision on Israel even though I suspect he couldn't have felt good about schmoozing with Netanyahu. As I said, the money is too much for a national politician or party to throw away.

However, I feel that The Contrarian, which is not, to me, journalism, but rather opinion, is directed towards what the U.S. is doing or enduring (ICE) and not what other countries are doing. I wasn't a subscriber when the U.S. stepped up its support of Israel's Gazan killing spree, but I suspect there were newsletters decrying the enabling of Israel's murder for murder's sake.

Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

You mention a relevant point here - i was a subscriber to The Contrarian right from the start (I was very happy Rubin left The Post, which i had already unsubscribed from) ..and for the first several months, The Contrarian said very little about Israel and Gaza, even though Rubin wrote many posts about it in her last year or so at WaPo...

But there were a couple time periods when Rubin and other Contrarian writers published many pieces about Gaza - specifically, last summer, when images of starving Palestinian children became mainstream US news for a brief time (and then just dropped off, even though the starvation persisted)..and then right after the 'ceasefire'...

The time and the content in both these periods showed The Contrarian has paid attention to events there, just very selectively and conditionally...this outlet has often posted about Putin, Russia and Ukraine as well.

The bigger point I have tried to make here though, is that the US's relation to Israel is a crucially important issue , even in regards to US domestic politics (AIPAC, free speech issues etc) ..and now the US is a full partner with Israel in this ongoing war. Practically every major move Israel makes involves the US directly in some way.

This journal is focused on opinion, sure..but its own mission statement speaks of its ' unflinching, unapologetic, and unwavering in its commitment to truth-telling' and 'unvarnished truth'...and, it is pretty good at that in many respects...but this topic has always been. a big weak spot, IMO.

Tony Brunello's avatar

There are so many balls in the air you can't hit them all at once. Jen did a good job bringing focus on elements of this mess we should talk about. All the same, the situation of the Trump alliance with Israel--and Saudi Arabia--and the way this is working out for China and Russia--lies at the heart of a catastrophic shift in the "international order." Israel's goals (Netanyahu's goals) and tactics right now are a real problem for America.

Dianne Walter's avatar

Not to mention the genocide of the Palestinian people!

Tony Brunello's avatar

A horrifying and heartbreaking moral outrage.

A doc reads's avatar

Well said. Sadly, for this world.

Monroe Morgret's avatar

Clearly, Netanyahu is trying sabotage the ceasefire. And so far, his lapdog Trump is letting him get away with it

Matthew Dance's avatar

Honestly, it doesn’t look like there was anything to sabotage. Israel was never a party to the ceasefire — and now it appears that maybe Iran wasn’t, either. The ceasefire was mainly Trump wishcasting - an attempt to declare victory and get out.

Not saying this to excuse Israel in the slightest. But the Trump administration’s incompetence is just staggering: they can’t even figure out how to give up.

Jason's avatar

...which surprises exactly no one.

Tony Brunello's avatar

What can Trump do now to stop it? This is why you DON'T make decisions like he did in joining this war. Reckless and evil--he put America in a trap. We are paying now the price for Trump throwing himself a "power party."

Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

Another point ignored by The Contrarian for a long time now - in the past year or so, Israel has shown, shall we say, a 'flexible' understanding of what the word 'ceasefire' means...and always with US support, of course.

Since the 'ceasefire' in Gaza began on October 2025, Israel has killed 800 men, women and children in Gaza in nearly daily attacks, wounding thousands more, all while effectively annexing half the entire region and continuing to block aid, all violations of the supposed agreement.

In a similar fashion, since the November 2024 'ceasefire' with Lebanon, Israel has killed several hundred people there, in near daily attacks, leveling thousands of homes and periodically occupying parts of the country, even before the dramatic escalation of attacks there since the Iran War began.

The response to these violations from the US has been either silence or excuses, while most US media, including The Contrarian, have simply ignored them.

Now, within hours of the 'ceasefire' with Iran, Israel launched one of the biggest bombing attacks in the entire war so far, in the middle of the work day, in the densest parts of Beirut and across Lebanon, killing hundreds within 10 minutes. Now Trump and his cabal are stammering excuses and lies to justify this war crime.

For Israel, 'ceasefire' is an entirely one way agreement, especially when its big friend across the pond always has its back and gives it all the weapons it can use.

Tony Brunello's avatar

Well--this is just plain true.

Steve 218's avatar

It is clearly time to break away from the influence of Israel, for at least as long as Netanyahu is calling the shots and quite possibly beyond. He is still trying to save himself from prosecution and prison, and it is an election year. That he was able to inveigle our weak-minded president into supporting an illegal war of choice is good reason to shun him.

Graham Smith's avatar

The proposition for supporting Israel was that they were a liberal democracy in a dangerous neighborhood of authoritarian religious extremist governments.

But, of late, Israel has become an authoritarian government run by religious extremists.

At this point I see no reason to give Israel the special treatment they have enjoyed over the decades. They are just another authoritarian religious extremist government in a region of authoritarian religious extremist governments. Any deals we do for them, favors, arms transactions should be pursued only if there is a direct national interest for the USA. They should be approached much as we approach the Saudis, Qatar, the UAE, etc. No more special treatment.

Steve 218's avatar

As has been said by others, that as a result of the changes that you mentioned, it's time to re-evaluate our stance with Israel. There are four things, the country itself, (geographically) the government, the people, and the Jewish religion. Thinking against the way the government is operating, the way the people have been brainwashed by the regime and propaganda is not directed against the religion (antisemitism). A lot of people can't or don't bother to make the differentiation.

Jason's avatar

Netanyahu clearly has influenced Trump in this case (and others), although this latest illegal war is a US/Israeli partnership. Still, Trump and his cabal made the ultimate decision, along with Netanyahu's gang of killers.

I'd say yes, break away from Netanyahu's influence, but its beyond just him. The US needs to stop funding and politically supporting Israel's war machine, now, completely, to start.

This has been a bipartisan exercise. Biden fully supported Israel's genocide in Gaza for 15 months, and he called the ICC indictment of Netanyahu and Gallant 'ridiculous'. One of Biden's last actions was to approve another shipment of weapons to Israel. Schumer, Jeffries and many other Democratic leaders were on board for all of this. When Netanyahu has visited the US, he is warmly welcomed by both GOP and Democratic reps...

...its not like Netanyahu just arrived in Israeli politics. He is the longest serving prime minster in the country's history, and has been in leadership positions for 30 years.

The US needs to recognize that the US/Israel alliance's 'ability to wreak havoc' (to use Rubin's term from this piece) is a primary driver of terror and instability in the Middle East this century. While I have little hope for MAGA, Democratic voters can continue to demand their leaders refuse AIPAC funding and speak out clearly and forcefully against Israel's US-funded genocide and apartheid.

Steve 218's avatar

A bit long-winded, but a complex situation deserves critical examination. You provided it, and I agree. Supporting Israel today is the equivalent of corporate subsidies (welfare) for businesses that are already doing quite well for themselves. Our government should be doing neither.

Jason's avatar

There isn't any way to explain a 'complex situation' in a few sentences, is there?

Steve 218's avatar

There is not, and many look for simplistic answers and solutions.

Mike Bechler's avatar

"The US needs to recognize that the US/Israel alliance's 'ability to wreak havoc' (to use Rubin's term from this piece) is a primary driver of terror and instability in the Middle East this century."

The actual existence of Israel and the inability of the Palestinians and Iranians to accept its continued existence is the primary driver. Most of the countries in the region have grudgingly accepted that Israel should remain, leaving the problem of the Palestinians and Iran's support of them unsolved. That is the primary driver of this and many other recent conflicts, and the solution is binary: accept Israel or make it go away. Pick one.

At this point in the conflict, Israel is taking a hard stance, curb stomping anyone who messes with it. Without Netanyahu perhaps they could take a more conciliatory stance, but that would have to be reciprocated, and it leaves the Palestinian problem unsolved.

I'm not optimistic.

Jason's avatar

No, it is the lack of any recognition of Palestine or any autonomy for the Occupied Territories that is the issue.

Instead of talking about Israel's right to exist, since Israel exists...ask, does Palestine have a right to exist? The leaders of Israel has emphatically said no, and the US has shrugged.

Here is an incomplete list of Israel's 'havoc' from just the past couple years: (all of course funded supported and protected and in some cases fully partnered by the US)

- a bare minimum of 72,000+ killed in Gaza. The actual number, once thousands of still buried bodies and those that died from disease, starvation and other causes directly due to Israel's onslaught will likely reach 100,000 or more....and of course, this number is increasing daily, despite the 'ceasefire'

- around 4000 killed in Lebanon between Oct '23 and Nov '24..then during the 'ceasefire' which lasted until the Iran War began, Israel killed several hundred more men, women and children in Lebanon..since Feb 28th, Israel has killed at least 1500 more there, until today, when Israel killed at least 250 more in a matter of minutes, again during another so-called 'ceasefire'

- over 1000 people in the West Bank since fall 2023, more every day

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- several hundred in Syria in that time period, which is barely ever reported in the US

- several hundred more in Yemen, again, barely reported here

- around 1000 people killed in the so-called '12 Day War' last year, then at least 2000 (likely a lot more) killed in Iran in the past 5 weeks along with Israel's BFF, the US

..and this does not include the several million people displaced, the assassinations, the maiming of thousands of children, the murder of journalists and health care workers, the intentional starvation, the effective annexation of land left and right, the countless injuries...

Mike Bechler's avatar

"No, it is the lack of any recognition of Palestine or any autonomy for the Occupied Territories that is the issue."

That is a one-dimensional description of a multidimensional problem that cannot be solved with a one-dimensional solution. Yes Israel has to give something more to the Palestinians, but both sides have to set realistic expectations, and that includes the Palestinians deciding to quit making war on Israel once they have their autonomy/country. I'm not optimistic about that happening, as their position all along has been that Israel should go away. The conflict will continue until either that changes or Israel is destroyed.

Both sides have sinned, and comparing the magnitude of their sins is a pointless exercise meant to appeal to emotion. It does nothing to solve the issues.

Note that I said "continued existence", implying a future outcome, not the current situation.

Jason's avatar

This 'both sides' argument above is mostly backwards. The rest is misleading, at best.

Yes, it is autonomy and sovereignty for the Occupied Territories that is the central issue, even though Israel has already made that virtually impossible by carving up the West Bank with Israeli-only roads and checkpoints everywhere, and nonstop land theft by 'settlers' The state of Israel exists. The state of Palestine does not.

Not only has the position of Israel been for the Palestinian people to 'go away' (for more, see Likud's charter, written a decade before Hamas existed), but Israel acts on it, and uses all its power and its disdain for international law to make this a reality, every day, for decades.

The violent subjugation of the Palestinian people by Israel has ben going on since the Nakba.

Israel is a powerful, autonomous state with one of the world's most powerful militaries, complete with tanks, jet fighters, and nuclear weapons. It has full control of its own borders, trade, telecommunications, travel, and governance.

The people of the Occupied Territories have precisely none of these things. The people in these regions live under strangling blockades leading to a full scale genocide (Gaza) or apartheid driven military rule that constantly steals its land and kills its subjects (West Bank, East Jerusalem). There are thousands of hostages right now in Israel's prisons, with no charges and no access to lawyers..it just goes on and on. The 5 million people that live in these Territories have no rights under the military regime. They cannot vote for those that control their lives. Their governments are nothing more than local administrators with very little power. They are regularly killed, maimed, tortured, abducted... the notion that there is any equivalence the other way is ridiculous.

Besides the sheer body count I mentioned above, the violence brought by Israel has no remote comparison from the other direction.

I often will mention to West Bank to Israel's defenders, who tend to ignore this area and focus on Gaza and Hamas. The so-called 'settlers' terrorize the Palestinians there daily, with killings, lootings, tearing up olive trees and farmland, and general terror worthy of the Jim Crow lynch mobs of the old South, with the full support of the IDF (and by extension, the US).

I ask again, do these Palestinians have a right to defend themselves? Would any people anywhere be expected to just accept this treatment?

Of course not.

'Yes Israel has to give something more to the Palestinians' totally mischaracterizes the depth of generations of oppression. Freedom, human rights, autonomy for the Palestinian people are not Israel's to give. They are not bargaining chips. It is all the Palestinian's by right, by international law, by even basic morality. The occupation is flagrantly illegal under international law. Period.

To say 'comparing the magnitude of their sins is a pointless exercise' is to trivialize the horrors brought on the Palestinian people by Israel, that are constant, ongoing, and have been in effect for most of living memory.

It's Come To This's avatar

She's not "ignoring" it but focusing on the many extensive American failures, recording them in detail for all of us, and for the future. Yes, the Contrarian and its authors know (as we all do) that this war was a joint Israeli-US venture. No, Jennifer Rubin is not a part of a Benjamin Netanyahu conspiracy -- she's likely despised Netanyahu for far longer than you or I have been writing.

Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

That's of course not true. If you find any criticism of Netanyahu from Rubin in the decades he was a leader in Israel before Trump was in office, and post it here. Back then, Rubin was a very much more right wing hawk and supporter of Israel than she is now. All her criticism were leveled at Obama and the Democrats for not being hawkish enough.

And, maybe one can assume The Contrarian writers know this 'was a joint Israeli-US venture.' but hat can only be an assumption, since that has not been reflected at all in the writing here...and there has been even less mention of Israel's assault on Lebanon....all of which is very much important and relevant to US policy in many ways, of course.

No one said Rubin was part of a 'Benjamin Netanyahu conspiracy', you can take down that straw man. In fact, when there is occasional and limited criticism of Israel's actions here, it is always directed at Netanyahu and Netanyahu alone by Rubin, Eisen and other Contrarian writers.

The role of a majority of Knesset reps and the IDF, the long time political and financial support form the US, and the generations of apartheid and oppression brought by Israel are rarely, if ever discussed.

It's Come To This's avatar

Rants are tiresome, predictable and boring things to endure...

Jason's avatar
Apr 9Edited

I am sorry to post too many facts and reasoned arguments that address your falsehood filled comment for you to absorb...still, your quip about 'rants' is pretty funny, seeing as how you post 'rants' every day here...again, yawn.

But I am looking forward to your evidence that Rubin 'despised Netanyahu' before Trump was President.

David Betts's avatar

Here you go again wishing for editorial control over the writings of other people. Jen is not the enemy. She shares her opinions which we are welcome to agree or disagree with. All opinion writers have their biases and we give them the freedom to express them in their own ways.

If you find the US-Israel relationship not to your liking, then say so. If you don't like Jen's content, then don't read it. But please stop trying to make Jen your puppet. It's not going to work and I for one, am tired of your odd attempts to be the editor in chief.

It's Come To This's avatar

Same. The shrieks of outrage — ‘how dare you interrupt my screed!’ — always a give-away.

Jason's avatar

That is all utter nonsense. There is no way that The Contrarian simply overlooked Israel's primary role in this war, let alone its massive assault just yesterday that has already led to the derailment of the so-called 'ceasefire'. Her opinions are, obviously based on supposed factual account and 'unvarnished truth'. This isn't fiction.

Jennifer Rubin is accountable for her posts just like every other journalists and commentator...if you want to meekly fawn over every word she posts as some do here, you are welcome to do so. "Don't read it" sounds like the words of a MAGA drone, not a 'contrarian'.

Also, and this should be obvious, comments in these thread are not for Rubin herself...I highly doubt she reads any of this, and I also doubt someone who has half a million subscribers and has been in the public eye for 20 years will be terribly concerned about one reader's opinions...these comment are for and read by other readers...if you had any level of critical thinking skills, you would understand this.

But, if you don't like my posts, 'don't read them'. I have just as much 'freedom to express' my opinions as anyone else here. If you don't like it, well, i couldn't care less.

If you have something substantive to say, post it. IF you are going to just whine, I don't care. I see many people here that share my views on this and have responded in kind.

Oh, btw, one last thing - this is from The Contrarian's 'About' page:

The Contrarian offers that: unflinching, unapologetic, and unwavering in its commitment to truth-telling. The Contrarian contributors may not agree on all issues (and, in fact, enjoy lively debate), but we share an unequivocal determination to defend our fundamental freedoms and the values essential to a pluralistic democracy....(and to) to deliver the unvarnished truth.

David Betts's avatar

“There is no way that The Contrarian simply overlooked Israel's primary role in this war” I said nothing about “overlooking” anything. My comment, which you failed to comprehend, goes to YOU and your insistence that Jen writes what YOU want her to write. It’s not all about YOU, Jason.

Jason's avatar

Yawn. Maybe read more than my first sentence...then look up what 'contrarian' means.

David Betts's avatar

Nah. I generally address the first lie in any screed.

Sharon M. Morrison's avatar

I have no expertise as to Isreal's actions pre or post cease fire. But I do know that, absent war, Bibi is on trial for corruption. Presumably when some kind of "normal" is restored, that trial will resume. This appears to be a motivation for BN's to continue the war in some form.

And come to think of it, Trump has his own albatross--his role in the Epstein child sexual abuse and trafficking. . If he can keep it out of the headlines, he will do so. It is a horror of Middle Ages magnitude that two corrupt individuals have control of their nation's militaries. We must permanently furlough Trump.

Jason's avatar

Its certainly no coincidence that both these criminals would rather fight wars than face the music.

Sally Fell's avatar

Jason, there is much agreement with the underlying issues you broach. That said, I do think the reason that entire issue was not addressed here is embedded in the title and focus of this opinion piece. It just is not about Israel. It is about Trump, it is about his ill-advised war. What you are bringing up is actually a whole different opinion piece exploring the clarity of communication in negotiating the cease fire, and whether Israel ever consented to its terms, or whether Trump was so determined to end this mess, declare his victory, and leave, that he never consulted with Netanyahu. Honestly, that circumstance is a whole different can of worms to explore. Israel did not want the conflict to stop, and may well have purposely violated the terms in order to drag Trump back into it, and have the cease fire fail. Trump and Netanyahu were not on the same page with their goals, and not on the same page with the cease fire. I do not trust Trump, Hegseth, Rubio, Kushner, or the other real estate friend of Trump. Long ago, I stopped trusting Netanyahu, who probably manipulated Trump into agreeing to do this stupid thing. But Trump made the decision. He is the one we must hold responsible. And, no one in his regime stood up and said, "No, this is a terrible idea," because, Jen is right, the Republican Congress uniformly voted to approve the least qualified Cabinet we've ever had, and Trump/Musk/Hegseth/ Rubio fired all the experts with experience, insight and wisdom. Our nation is being run by utter incompetence loyal to Trump, at the moment, people who would not know or admit to the truth, even when it stares them in the face. They would rather rewrite history than admit they were wrong. This is not the type of government that ever learns from mistakes because they do not admit to them.

Jason's avatar

I completely agree with you that Trump deserves all the blame he gets (and his staff). It's clear Netanyahu was in his ear, but that in no way absolves Trump or his people of any responsibility for this ongoing catastrophe.

But I disagree that these are two completely separate issues..Granted there are separate facets, but these two countries have been a full tight partnership in this outrage since day one, and really since long that, going back to last year's attack on Iran, going back even more to the US"s longstanding support and unique relationship with of Israel. I have been referring to the 'US/ISrael alliance' for a while now, since in my view, even the genocide in Gaza was largely an effective action of this alliance. Israel never could have done what it has done alone, with the full financial, military and political support from the US. the fundamental problems brought by this toxic relationship is very serious and is deeply interwoven with everything happening now.

I should also add again, my comments here are not in a vacuum. I think I made it clear that Rubin's near completely avoidance of discussing Israel's role in this, particularly in its attacks on Lebanon but also in Iran, are not just evident in today's piece, she had been pretty consistent with this omission all along. And that is in the even bigger context of Rubin's long-standing strong support for Israel's actions in the Occupied Territories and in the region, reflected in her work going back decades (back when she was a full throated supporter of Netanyahu and shredded Obama at every turn for things she now apparently supports), as well as in the work of other Contrarian writers.

In that context, It's really hard for me to see her omission of Israel's role as much more than her ducking this issue purposely, since it is nearly impossible to defend at this point. There is a pattern here I have outlined in other comments in this thread. It's just too important to not be mentioned for days, weeks at a time.

But I agree with you (and her) of course, that Trump should be held accountable, for sure, as well as his team of lackeys and nutjobs and neo Nazi garbage dumps, for this and a hundred other crimes. But Israel's role (and more specifically, the US/Israeli alliance's role) needs to be addressed too.

One more thing, I also started this thread because yesterday's brazen, massive attack on Lebanon by Israel was the single most important news event of the day from this war. I am still surprised there was not even a single word about this, even if this piece was meant to be focused on Trump.

I truly appreciate your thoughtful and detailed rebuttal to my comments..really!

Anca Vlasopolos's avatar

While you are correct in pointing out the alliance between drumpf, a convicted felon who will do all he can to stay out of jail for as long as he can, and Netanyahu, ditto, you fail to mention Saudi Arabia's Mohamed bin Salman, who's been pressing drumpf to take more and more aggressive actions against Iran. The cretinous cease-fire was a verbal agreement with no parameters--no mention of Israel stopping the attacks on Hezbollah, no mention of opening the Strait without demanding outrageous tolls.

Jason's avatar

Sure, throw in Jamal Khashoggi's killer, always deserving of criticism. His influence is definitely in the mix too.

Hiro's avatar

"Democrats must insist on oversight hearings, calling Hegseth, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine to explain what planning took place, what the goals of this war were, how the ceasefire advances those goals, and why giving up the Strait of Hormuz should be seen as anything other than a humiliating defeat. We also need a full accounting of the cost of the war, including the potentially long-lasting energy shock." At least this is the beginning and we can do. To make it clear to American citizens the cease fire conditions that Trump agreed. American voters, including MAGA must have clear and concrete understanding of what Trump signed with Iran.

Lois W. Halbert's avatar

I hope the Contrarian understands what Jason is saying. I know it's hard to put everything together in the moment, but we need to hear more about the innocent lives being taken by Israel.

Lois W. Halbert's avatar

I agree. More needs to be said. Truth in reporting. No sanewashing.

LiverpoolFCfan's avatar

Personally, I'd rather blame Trump for being so easily led (by Putin, Xi, Kim Jung Il, Orban, etc. ) than trying shift the colossal failure of this war onto Israel. They have their own problems. We have ours.

Until we fix Trump (and his Republican enablers) he'll continue to empower our enemies and alienate our allies. The Middle East will always be our crucible and we're unlikely to solve its problems, other than urging more negotiation and less bombing. And at this point, we'd be huge hypocrites to tell others to "do as we say, not as we do".

Jason's avatar

two lighter notes:

(for the New Yorkers)

Gov. Hochul Wednesday mocked President Trump’s plan to share Strait of Hormuz shipping tolls with Iran, comparing the proposal to another transit pricing scheme the president has vehemently opposed.

“So let’s get this straight. Trump’s plan is… congestion pricing?” Hochul’s press office tweeted.

And, Mike Nellis came up with a better acronym than TACO:

TOFU _ Trump Only Fucks Up

Carol H's avatar

What about Hezbollah launching rockets at Israel from its southern border.

Jason's avatar

Israel violated the 'ceasefire' with Lebanon a thousand times between November 2024 when it was enacted, and the beginning of the Iran War, according to the UN. In this time, Israel killed several hundred men, women and children, making thousands more homeless, injuring a thousand more ... I could not find one instance of Hezbollah killing any Israelis in that time frame.

What would any other country do, if there was a 'ceasefire' yet the opposing country continued to bomb and kill people in your country on a near daily basis?

Hal's avatar

"I can't believe there isn't a single word..."

I can't believe you don't have the spine to mention that Israel's target is Hezbollah, not Lebanon.

Rich Stockton's avatar

Trumps big problem is that he thinks that the Iranians are stupid......oh and, the Iranians know that he is.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

Further Rich....not just the Iranians but the whole world knows now. All we need to do now is to convince the maga crowd to pay attention.

Don Kennedy's avatar

Problem is, the MAGA crowd will not pay attention unless they are directly, personally, affected by events – it took the rise of domestic gasoline prices to cause some stir of awareness. Once the fertilizer and other domestic price shocks start to kick in, there will be further awareness.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

Don, you say "problem is maga will not pay attention" and then you added "unless personally affected". We are already there Don. Would they modify their behavior? Well, there's more pain yet to come and my hope is that at least a good percentage of them, the ones not to blindly fanatics would at least stay home for the midterms. 🤞

Signe K.'s avatar

The brainwashing and sane-washing are effective on some. A neighbor recently admitted that this is a painful time for everyday Americans, but also claimed, "the Golden Age is coming, next year" and that we just need to hang on until it arrives under Trump's golden finger. SCARYYYYY.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

And those guys vote Don. There's no cure for stupidity. They should have their own Republic so thay can sit and wait for a miracle that will never happen. Recognizing that you were wrong it's not a natural, normal trait.

We should make sure that we vote in massive numbers 😉

Signe K.'s avatar

I have often said that these people should be sent to the Dakotas to live. We could dis-assemble the Mexico wall and send it up there to wall them in. They can live their lily-white lives of delusion without having to deal with us Woke Folk.

patricia's avatar

shouldn't be too hard...they think trump is Jesus

patricia's avatar

they will believe anything...

patricia's avatar

trump's ability to bankrupt is staggering, and he has moved on to america and the world by the stupid stuff he does...tarrifs etc.

Signe K.'s avatar

This probably scares me the most. He is bankrupting the country, the deficit is unimaginably high, and after he shakes all of us taxpayers down with the prices of housing, gas, and food, we will have nothing left with which to pay it off, nor our children, nor grandchildren.

PS Curtis's avatar

Nothing more dangerous than a moron who believes he's a genius. Especially if he has nukes.

Monica P.'s avatar

IMO I think don-old thought he would be getting a cut from Iran’s take on the Strait of Hormuz.

Hal's avatar
Apr 9Edited

"Trumps big problem is that he thinks that the Iranians are stupid......oh and, the Iranians know that he is."

Iran's big problem is they never considered Trump would actually attack them to this extent, Israel would have such great intel, and the rest of the Gulf states would align with us. Now the regime is hoping they can convince Trump that they can stay in power and keep their nuclear materials. This isn't over yet.

Stephen Brady's avatar

tRump has cost us our national prestige and the good will of nearly the whole world. He is busy wrecking the underpinnings of our economy. He is blowing through billions with unplanned and unfunded spending on his whims and fancies. This failed regime - with the help of the reichwing media - may very well have destroyed the ability of Americans to tolerate and work with people of different backgrounds and political and religious viewpoints. They have flipped 'E Pluribus Unum' on its head and made one into many... once we rid ourselves of this disastrous experiment, how do we knit it all back together? We need to start thinking now about that.

BosPhotoGuy's avatar

I think it was a decisive victory for the Republican party. They delivered everything that Vladimir Putin could have ever wished for and more. I am confident they will all be justly rewarded.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

That is the important point, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Ann Rock's avatar

How do Magats spin this? We are objectively much worse off than when Trump started this nonsense.

L B Rose's avatar

I'm sure FAUX News can do this spin, as they do every day...

Mark Pukey's avatar

Obviously this entire fiasco is Obama's fault!

I mean, he left office ten years ago... but dastardly, malicious incompetence like that needs to stew for a while before it comes to light! So yeah, MAGA will blame Obama for Trump's dementia and general Republican cowardice.

Tony Brunello's avatar

Oh--everything is worse.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

And we are much worse than magats voted for the scumbag.

Rudyard Kipling's avatar

Israel is complicit because of their failure to remove Netanyahu. The dumb duo has screwed their nations.

Robert Manz's avatar

It’s not over yet. Unfortunately. I personally see no problem with Iran and Oman controlling the strait and sorting out issues with UAE, Saudi Arabia etc. Exactly why USA, Britain, France should be in charge there continues to puzzle me. Meantime we should grow spines and eject this monster from office.

Susan Leshner's avatar

This seems like history repeating itself. In July, 1956, Egyptian President Nasser announced the nationalization of the Suez Canal Company, the joint British-French enterprise which they had owned and operated since the Suez Canal's construction in 1869. France, Britain and Israel invaded Egypt to stop the takeover and remove Nasser from power. The crisis lasted from July 1956 to March 1957, with the main military action happening around November 1956. The Eisenhower Administration eventually was able to get Britain and France to accept a United Nations ceasefire on November 6th as well as a UN peacekeeping force for the area around the Canal. The difference here is that no one 'built' the Strait of Hormuz. It is an international waterway and should remain so without any country trying to control it and make money off of it.

Barbara B's avatar

hegseth , gabbard and caine should all be impeached. Not one of them met the minimum qualifications for the jobs they were nominated and confirmed for. Those confirmations are the first HUGE failure of the Congress

Steve 218's avatar

No, it is the failure of the MAGApublican senators (no cap. intentional). They were the ones who confirmed these incompetents in the first place and didn't do due diligence in researching their pedigrees before confirming. They set this bunch upon us.

Barbara B's avatar

I do think they knew enough about some of the people confirmed but were too respectful of what is sometimes thought of as the President s prerogative to have the advisers he wants. Hegseth? gabbard?

Steve 218's avatar

"Respectful"? More like too cowardly in fear of being primaried and losing their positions power, and money. If these people were to be showing respect, it would be for the people who elected them, democracy and the Constitution.

Hal's avatar

"hegseth , gabbard and caine should all be impeached."

Tulsi Gabbard has not been involved in any of the military operations. She has been deliberately kept out of any discussions or planning. She is one of the few anti-war members of the administration. She will probably either be fired outright or forced to resign.

General Caine cannot be impeached, but he can be fired by the President.

Barbara B's avatar

And thanks for the clarification about Caine; impeaching him didnt exactly sound right. I Trump must have fired a CJCS but i cdn’t remember.

Barbara B's avatar

Gabbard did not do an adequate job advocating for the intelligence about imminent threat; she also allowed a written warning to be suppressed. She also said that only the President can decide what’s an imminent threat; that is nonsense.

William Schrader's avatar

Interesting analysis of the war with Iran without any comment about how Israel has with it's total control of the United States wiped out Gaza, total destruction, massive civilian massacre and continued bombing. Then walking the United States by the nose to attack Iran because they were going to bomb Iran. Then Israel bombs Lebanon. Then when the United States is trying to negotiate a deal Isreal attacks civilian areas again, bombing a funeral. With the republican fascist party circle of friends: Israel, Hungary, Russia, and North Korea who needs enemies.

Angie's avatar

And let it be noted that the world needs to get off the oil BS.

Anne Pierce's avatar

The US, along with the rest of the world, is now worse off than before Bibi convinced Trump to attack Iran. Prior to the attack, the Strait of Hormuz was open to all traffic, and Iran was not sending missiles and drones toward its neighbors. Hapless Lebanon is so much worse off that words fail me. Over a million people displaced and desperately trying to find a place that is safe, thousands killed, infrastructure devastated, while Israel bombs civilian areas and threatens to destroy everything in the south of the country to create a "buffer zone."

Marilyn's avatar

You forgot to post that Saudi Arabia convinced tRump. But never mind that, blame whoever you want. The WH moron does what he wants to do. He cares about no one else. Past presidents said no to Bibi and trump could have as well. He didn't. That's entirely on him. If someone told you to jump off a cliff, would you? If you do, that's on you.

Denis Pombriant's avatar

Looks more and more like Herbert Hoover who I famously cratered the GOP for 5 presidential election cycles. Heck of a job Donny!

Eileen Wilks's avatar

Magnificent, concise, devastatingly accurate.

Merrill's avatar

If we give 1 egomaniac and 1 deluded theocratic megalomaniac a $1 trillion dollar budget, what else should we expect? The GOP should be considered finished by the Iran exploit.

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Carol Gamm's avatar

We have to answer some very basic questions. What’s going wrong in America today, when so many support Trump and his Tame Republicans? How many Americans still don’t understand the disaster that is the Trump administration? What is the future of the Republican Party, once known as the Party of Lincoln?

Tamie Swain 🌊✌🏻🖇️'s avatar

We can no longer have feckless Democrats.

Responsibility for the country’s safety and operation must be taken up.

We can not protect and care for our people if both parties continue to to serve themselves only.

Don Kennedy's avatar

We have to get rid of Citizens United ruling and eliminate the flood of money into congressional campaigns before that will happen.

Steve 218's avatar

Yes! Campaign finance reform is waaay overdue. If congress was the temple, then the moneychangers have taken control of it with the help of the corporate lobbyists. It's time to throw them out of the 'temple'.