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Michelle Jordan's avatar

A great dialogue between Jen and Adam on the state of insanity in the Department of Homeland Security. Absolutely right Kinzinger!

JDV's avatar

When there's a soldier on every street corner. There's still plenty of crime: it's in the corrupt leadership that ordered the soldiers to police the people.

Theresa Jeanne Duguay's avatar

Vermont's governor was never a Trump backer and was quite clear about that from the start.

Cherae Stone's avatar

These two are great together, don’t you think? More of this, please.

The Contrarian's avatar

Noted, Adam is a great guest!

Cherae Stone's avatar

Thank you for listening, and for taking the time no note. I feels GOOD to be heard.

Ray Smock's avatar

I agree with what Adam has to say, but please, let's dump the boiling frog story. Frogs are smart enough to jump out of the water as it warms. The question remains, are humans smart enough to jump out of the authoritarian water before we are a total police state?

David Gardiner's avatar

As a pro- (small "d") democracy coalition, we are stronger together when we play to our personal strengths. All of the leaders resisting the hostile takeover have their own style and focus. What they have in common is speaking uncomfortable truths from personal experience. This makes it impossible for Thiel's, Vought's, and Miller's puppets to stage credible backing for any of their post-Constitutional narratives to stick.

David Moscatello's avatar

Given that between the DOGE Bros, the random, stupid firings (and shortly thereafter oopsie! rehires), the the illegal claw backs of $ billions followed by recissions, the decimation of the NIH, FDA, CDC, NSF, EPA, CFPB, IRS, OSHA, NOAA, NASA, NPS, CFPB, and the perversion of the DHS into the FSB, with ICE acting as straight-up masked Gestapo thugs, almost none of the parts of the federal government that actually help people were functioning BEFORE the shut down, so I think that's why this one isn't hitting as hard (yet).

Pat Jones Garcia's avatar

I hope America is more than just a little fed up over Trump sending military troops and the National Guard into states to rile up the people there, Adam and Jen. And completely fed up with Trump's constant lies and power grabs. I wish the Congress would get rid of the sorry excuse for a president and instead support a president faithful to the Constitution and Rule of Law to work for all of the American people, not just those with silver and gold spoons.

Shannon Starks's avatar

What counts as a crime depends on who defines crime. If we had troops on every square foot of America, we would still have the Epstein files.