Thank you for being so enlightening. Instead of antagonizing people by hurling insults and threats at them it’s clear why we must learn the reasons why they think the way they do. Algorithms are probably designed to instill vitriol on social media. And you’re correct about the “prove me wrong “ argument it’s intent is to force a belief system on to others rather than having civil discourse and yes it’s absolutely dehumanizing. Thanks so much.
Very well put Roberto. I've come to believe it's the only way out of the mess we're in.
We know the essential ingredient in human relations is listening and we're doing very little of that on either side. I have longed for some guidance on the art of drawing people out of their silos including me.
The few examples you give are a good start but sure wish there was a source for a more in depth focus on these communication skills.
I believe you are very much on target. In the past I had a few opportunities to engage like this, and found them enlightening at a minimum and in some cases made some movement in others' stuckness. In my career I encountered more like-minded people than otherwise (being in social services) but still found opportunities. Keeping an interested expression and voice tone, and using words that are not being used as shorthand for whole swaths of opinion, can help keep a conversation going. As a retired person and full-time caregiver, I find I have extremely few such opportunities. I have belonged to the same liberal church for decades and would feel lost not to go there. I wonder--as I read this article--if it would be helpful for liberal ("progressive" "woke") spaces to provide opportunities to practice, as one does in high school forensics, holding such discussions with one another, with chance (a coin-flip, maybe?) for who has to put forth the opposition position. Having the chance to practice a discussion with someone you know is an ally might lessen some of one's anxiety. Taking the opposition side in a discussion gives one a chance to actually look at whether there are some data to support that "side." Taking your usual point of view in a safe space with someone you know for absolute sure is not going to blast you, might give one a chance to practice staying cool under pressure.
Thank you for the encouragement and tools. The MAHA movement is now at odds with the MAGA movement, and he is not going after sex predators, so DTs tactic of trying to be everyone’s savior is beginning to backfire. He cannot be both wet and dry, as Heather Cox Richardson said. Such movements that have no integrity, must crack eventually because nothing is holding them together-hopefully before too much damage is done.
It is a sign that you oppose trump, the people of Norway did it to oppose nazis during WW11 other countries as well.EJ Carroll started it here and Jill Wine Banks is in favor.
I wholeheartedly agree that "a binary of us versus them, good versus evil.. all or it will be nothing" leads to no conversation at all. Calling someone a "Nazi" or "Antifa" doesn't do any good. For example, perhaps The Contrarian articles could also tone down on adjectives and do less on the White House and much more on EVERYTHING ELSE.I am so, so, so tired of Contrarian articles with trump in the headlines. There's plenty of other things to talk about and investigate.
Thank you for being so enlightening. Instead of antagonizing people by hurling insults and threats at them it’s clear why we must learn the reasons why they think the way they do. Algorithms are probably designed to instill vitriol on social media. And you’re correct about the “prove me wrong “ argument it’s intent is to force a belief system on to others rather than having civil discourse and yes it’s absolutely dehumanizing. Thanks so much.
I also was shocked by the thousands plus who LOVED charlie jerk and his ideas
Very well put Roberto. I've come to believe it's the only way out of the mess we're in.
We know the essential ingredient in human relations is listening and we're doing very little of that on either side. I have longed for some guidance on the art of drawing people out of their silos including me.
The few examples you give are a good start but sure wish there was a source for a more in depth focus on these communication skills.
I believe you are very much on target. In the past I had a few opportunities to engage like this, and found them enlightening at a minimum and in some cases made some movement in others' stuckness. In my career I encountered more like-minded people than otherwise (being in social services) but still found opportunities. Keeping an interested expression and voice tone, and using words that are not being used as shorthand for whole swaths of opinion, can help keep a conversation going. As a retired person and full-time caregiver, I find I have extremely few such opportunities. I have belonged to the same liberal church for decades and would feel lost not to go there. I wonder--as I read this article--if it would be helpful for liberal ("progressive" "woke") spaces to provide opportunities to practice, as one does in high school forensics, holding such discussions with one another, with chance (a coin-flip, maybe?) for who has to put forth the opposition position. Having the chance to practice a discussion with someone you know is an ally might lessen some of one's anxiety. Taking the opposition side in a discussion gives one a chance to actually look at whether there are some data to support that "side." Taking your usual point of view in a safe space with someone you know for absolute sure is not going to blast you, might give one a chance to practice staying cool under pressure.
Thank you for the encouragement and tools. The MAHA movement is now at odds with the MAGA movement, and he is not going after sex predators, so DTs tactic of trying to be everyone’s savior is beginning to backfire. He cannot be both wet and dry, as Heather Cox Richardson said. Such movements that have no integrity, must crack eventually because nothing is holding them together-hopefully before too much damage is done.
wear a paper clip....
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It is a sign that you oppose trump, the people of Norway did it to oppose nazis during WW11 other countries as well.EJ Carroll started it here and Jill Wine Banks is in favor.
Thank you.
I'm glad to help spread the word...
I learned about it from a column by Joyce Vance on 9.20 entitled "paper clip protest "
I wholeheartedly agree that "a binary of us versus them, good versus evil.. all or it will be nothing" leads to no conversation at all. Calling someone a "Nazi" or "Antifa" doesn't do any good. For example, perhaps The Contrarian articles could also tone down on adjectives and do less on the White House and much more on EVERYTHING ELSE.I am so, so, so tired of Contrarian articles with trump in the headlines. There's plenty of other things to talk about and investigate.