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Ann L. Braden's avatar

Add a seventh-TAX THE BILLIONAIRES.

LiverpoolFCfan's avatar

And an eighth.

RELEASE ALL OF THE EPSTEIN FILES.

That might add a significant number of non-MAGAs to the wave.

Laurie Raz-Astrakhan's avatar

Add a ninth: end mass detention and deportation and close the "camps."

BigDaddy52's avatar

I live in hard red South Crackerlina. Sadly, what I hear most from magats and near-magats is support for trump's brutal immigration policies. Far too many people whom I try to understand truly believe the bullshit that he is all that's stopping us from being overrun by rampaging hordes of non-whites, and being made subservient to 'sharia law'. The stupidity is incredible.

And they pin their support to that, in tolerating his corruption and malfeasance.

Bobbette Strauss's avatar

This is number 1 to me. I’m a 6th generation American Jew and America is hewing too close to

James Byham's avatar

You're singing my song .

BigDaddy52's avatar

Flat tax, top to bottom, for all earnings and incomes over 'X amount', from any source. No deductions or evasions.

I'm no math or econ whiz, but I think it must be possible to calculate a rate to produce plenty of revenue to cover federal expenditures. If we had a worthwhile Congress that actually represented us ALL, the flat rate would likely be remarkably low. My imaginary Congress would actually create worthwhile budgets.

Sorry. I fell over laughing at my insanity. Now, I can't get up.

James Byham's avatar

I would be okay with that if ALL loopholes were firmly closed .

So of course you are right this is never going to happen despite conservatives bleating about a flat tax for many decades .

James Byham's avatar

I would be okay with that if ALL loopholes were firmly closed .

So of course you are right this is never going to happen despite conservatives bleating about a flat tax for many decades .

Hiro's avatar

DEMs should save money from spending on primaries. Focus on winning the general election. Stop infighting for now.

Nancy's avatar

saw this on threads: "villionaires"--it is the perfect description of most of them.

Hal's avatar
May 21Edited

Bernie Sanders used to say he wanted to tax the millionaires and billionaires...until he became a millionaire. Now he just wants to tax the billionaires.

Just how much more do you want to tax the billionaires?

Signe K.'s avatar

You may be arguing a question of semantics. I think Bernie believes in taxing the wealthy.

Hubert Thomason's avatar

Signe, you are correct but it’s pointless to engage with “Hal” who appears to be a chronic fault-finding troll whose continuous carping prevents any meaningful engagement.

Hal's avatar
May 21Edited

Hubert, I'm not the one in an ideological bubble. I criticize Trump and the Republicans on a regular basis in this forum. How many times have you articulated any criticism of either Jen or the Democratic Party?

Hal's avatar

"You may be arguing a question of semantics."

No. Bernie stopped criticizing millionaires once he became one. The wealthy are already being taxed, but all Bernie and the Dems can say is they don't pay their "fair share", which is a great buzz phrase but not very specific.

Zelda Hester's avatar

The working class pays 10-30 percent while dealing with current inflation rate of 3.80 percent. The wealthy pay 3 to 24 percent taxes and are benefitting from all of the restrictions lifted. The tax cuts to the wealthy have currently cost our country 10 trillion in revenue. Those are irrefutable facts, that Trump and his corrupt administration and the Republicans in Congress own. It is pretty obvious that things need to be adjusted to even the scale. Bernie supports these reforms. Meanwhile cuts are still happening to every program that helps the elderly, the needy, and the sick in this country.

Hal's avatar

Thanks for the reply. No doubt there needs to be some fixes. I would suggest we completely scrap the tax code and start over. We managed to fund the federal government without an income tax until a little over a hundred years ago, but then again the federal government was still relatively small.

But what doesn't get mentioned is that we have more of a spending problem than a taxing problem. Neither the Dems nor the Repubs are very serious about reducing spending.

Zelda Hester's avatar

The U.S. economy has performed much better under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents in the modern era. In almost every measure of the U.S. economy including total job growth, unemployment, economic growth, manufacturing job growth, manufacturing investment, small business creation, and contribution to the national debt, economic performance is stronger under Democrats. While there are many factors contributing to these trends, the throughline is clear that Democratic administrations consistently help the U.S. economy perform better than Republican administrations.

Republicans have prioritized tax cuts that benefit the wealthy and that fail to boost economic growth or pay for themselves, while Democrats have prioritized investing in the middle class, supporting small businesses, and improving economic resilience after downturns. Of the 11 recessions in the modern era, 10 have begun under Republican presidents.

Overall job growth has been greater under Democratic presidents

Job growth has been notably greater under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents since the early 1980s. Looking at the last seven presidents, job growth totaled over 50 million under Democratic presidents compared to only 17 million under Republican presidents. Most recently, job growth has totaled nearly 16.2 million under the Biden-Harris administration as the U.S. economy has recovered from the pandemic recession. Conversely, there were 2.7 million fewer Americans employed when President Trump left office than at the beginning of his term, making him the first president in the modern era to oversee net job losses.

JEC FINDINGS

Batya Lee's avatar

Bernie changed his rhetoric from millionaires to billionaires when billionaires became a reality, which they weren’t in any real sense before that. Bernie has enough to afford a couple of homes and a comfortable life, but no one can say he’s super wealthy or corrupt. Using him as your talking point is illogical.

Craig L Peebles's avatar

The old Republican Party of Lincoln & Reagan that you (& I) once were involved with no longer exists. That old Republican Party is dead & gone. That old Republican Party will never return. The very name "Republican Party" has become exceptionally toxic to tens of millions of American voters from all sorts of backgrounds & viewpoints. May the current MAGA Republican Party soon share the fate of the Whig Party.

Jason's avatar

"The party of Reagan" laid the foundation for everything we are seeing today. The lionizing of Reagan these days is just ...odd.

It's true that maybe by a few narrow standards, Reagan could seem reasonable compared to today's fascist cult called the GOP, but that is a very low bar.

The bear hug of the religious right via Jerry Falwell and his 'Moral Majority', the fundamental attacks on the social safety net and government in general from every direction, the embrace of openly racist stances via 'welfare queens' and the huge acceleration of the so-called War On Drugs, his no-holds barred push for massive deregulation and military spending that skyrocketed the national debt, the deep corruption of the Savings & Loan and Iran-Contra scandals...all formed a clear direct line to the Tea Party, then to Trump.

Nancy's avatar

As I read in a Joyce Vance substack, history may not repeat itself, but it rhymes! There is a clear through-line, as you describe it, and the Ds should be able to make an easy case for winning future elections; and it will be up to us and people like Marc Elias and others to ensure we actually have elections!

Jason's avatar

I'd say in this case, history isn't rhyming, or repeating, it's one long horror story that gets worse and worse to..what ending?

Steve 218's avatar

It probably isn't likely to happen here, but the French Revolution was the ending there.

Jason's avatar

something major has to give...and not just in the GOP but in the Democratic Party led by guys like Schumer and Jeffries

or it won't and we will just become a full bore authoritarian one party state

Steve 218's avatar

I'd like to see someone like Chris VanHollen take Schumer's place.

chris lemon's avatar

Reagan claimed that the government was the problem. Since then every GOP politician has worked hard to prove him right.

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Jason's avatar

oh plenty more..the full frontal attack on unions, the dramatic increase in income inequality, the attacks on abortion rights, his terrible SCOTUS appointees including Scalia....

Steve 218's avatar

The attack on education (that's been going on for decades)....

James Byham's avatar

Not me I am working class and I despised Reagan as he despised me and people like me. That being said at least he would have been against installing the 4th Reich as the fat orange thing has .

Jason's avatar

I wonder, would he have? Or did he just not have the opportunity?

The Iran Contra scandal alone was worthy of the Trump gang. The level of corruption in that saga is still underrated IMO. Reagan and all his crew should have been jailed. Instead, Bush Sr. became Pres, Reagan is near saint-like and Ollie North is a frequent FOX News guest.

James Byham's avatar

I often facesciosly refer to him as saint Ronald . 🙄

James Byham's avatar

I often facesciosly refer to him as saint Ronald . 🙄

DW's avatar

I despised him too, and his greasy smile. He was like the proverbial car salesman (apologies to car salesmen)

A curious coincidence is that he used to fall asleep at meetings also. Supposedly Nancy was running the show, guided by soothsayers.

Jason's avatar

As they said on 30 Rock, he mind was 'resting' by the end of his term...

Enotslim's avatar

In my view, based on growing up in Reagan's California as well as his USA, Reagan had none of Lincoln's virtues except, perhaps, folksiness. Goldwater-to-Trump has been the Republicans' straight as an arrow bobsled to hell. And we let them take us along.

Kate O'Shea's avatar

Growing up in California when Reagan was governor taught me all I needed to know about him and his callus approach to the common good when governing. Trump is the logical conclusion of what I saw.

Hummingbird3's avatar

Growing up in Manhattan gave me all I needed to know about trump and I could not believe he was elected president in 2016. But here we are today.

Kate O'Shea's avatar

...unfortunately yes :(

patricia's avatar

reagan was an actor...and he played a good president. he was not good in the real life role.

James Byham's avatar

Except for wall street and rich cronies.

Rhona Perkins's avatar

Let us remember that Reagan, somewhat like Trump, was an actor and loved playing his role.

Al Keim's avatar

After Teddy we've had a slug of republicans ride that straight arrow, Taft, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Nixon.

Steve 218's avatar

You should probably omit Reagan and return to Eisenhower. Reagan started the downfall with his 'trickle down economics' and other destructive programs.

Jason's avatar

I thought of mentioning Ike too...even Nixon in some ways was more liberal than Reagan, as weird as that sounds now (can we imagine the GOP creating the EPA today?)...but yeah maybe Ike was the last principled GOP pres.

Of course, Nixon was a boy scout compared to Trump, but I digress....

...and, of course, the GOP Rubin supported, the Cheney/ Tea Party GOP, was much worse than even Reagan's party.

Enotslim's avatar

"I Like Ike" makes a good 2026 political slogan - for Democrats.

Ellie still in the mix in 26's avatar

Reagan jump started this mess. My children still remember watching me sitting on the floor in front of the television, with tears running down my face, saying, "The old fart won," and then...."THE OLD FAR WON AGAIN!" It's because of him we still have "welfare queen" stories, and he is the reason Republicans started hating Dr. Fauci.

He did do one good thing: He instituted "Obamaphones."

Jason's avatar

he did another good thing, he gave endless fodder for many great punk rock songs.

Alexi's avatar

We’ve got a bigger problem now was my favorite.

Jason's avatar

See what I posted earlier below!

Ivan Tufaart's avatar

I hope so too, but our system needs (and at some level the people also want) 2 healthy, sane political parties. I hope that either MAGA is a passing thing (kinda like passing gas), or somehow a new party comes out of the ashes of the GQP. But starting a party is very difficult so I don't know how it will end

Kevin Dale Green's avatar

MAGA is hopefully a passing fad, but it isn't the real problem. Project 2025 wasn't Trump's agenda, it was the culmination of decades of planning by groups like the Federalist Society, the Heritage foundation, etc. Callais also wasn't about Trump, it was the finale to Roberts' career long obsession with eviscerating the VRA. The current Republican party may wrap itself in the MAGA label, but the rot has been spreading for decades. Our system works best with two parties, but there may not be anything salvageable from today's Republican party

Robert L. Perry's avatar

I'm sorry, but I don't think MAGA is a passing fad. Trump has unleashed the fears and resentment of 25-33 percent of the electorate and given them huge power. They may lose national and some state elections, but they will continue to dominate local and state politics across all of the Southern states and the Midwest. The gerrymandering frenzy may also give them frequent control of the House; I think the Dems have a great shot at taking back the House in 2026, but I think 2028 will be the real test of MAGA's strength. The MAGA states already control more than 200 electoral votes, leaving the 7 swing states to decide the election. It doesn't take more than a few thousand MAGAs in each of those states to win, if the Dems don't turn out as they failed to do in 2024. I hope that like the Whigs and Know-Nothings, they do fad away, as you say, but I am truly concerned that the genie of hatred is out of the bottle for the foreseeable future.

Maureen Dorsey's avatar

The magaklan is merely the rise of the confederacy.

Charles's avatar

I would say the Republican Party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower. I have a hard time including Reagan in that group. I will allow that Reagan was a superior choice to that offered by today's Republicans.

Jayne's avatar

Actually the old GOP predates Reagan. Starting with old Ronnie, EVERY GOP administration has increased the size of govt and increased national debt with their idiot tax cuts and trickle down economics. Ironically, 10 of the last 11 recessions have occurred during GOP administrations. They have not been fiscally responsible for the last 50 years! They just talk a good game and are masters of the con game.

Susan Lee's avatar

It seems to me that even the term "conservative" is dead and gone. It was, after all, what the republican party used to claim. Now it is the MAGA party of extremists who couldn't give a damn about what actually made this country great. (Yes, even when it made mistakes, as we all do.)

There are probably some actual "conservatives" left in the population, but certainly not in elected office.

Jason's avatar

There are many conservatives, they are called 'centrist Democrats'.

David Moscatello's avatar

They're mostly reactionaries and revanchists now.

Patricia Richter's avatar

You lost me at Reagan

Mike Schornak's avatar

That "old Republican party of... Reagan" was the start of all of this.

Ann Dixon's avatar

For the fairness agenda:

- Voting rights and banning gerrymandering

- reverse Citizens United

- reform the Supreme Court (term limits, expansion, ethics requirements with teeth)

Rhona Perkins's avatar

Or just impeach the Scotus Six( you know who you are!)

Wade Baynham's avatar

I would also immediately add raising the minimum wage, if Democrats want to consider moving any of the 140 million poor and low-wealth people in the country to the voting booth. The party cannot continue to ignore these folks. They're getting crushed.

James Byham's avatar

I remember 2016 when the campaigning orange thing said he would increase the minimum wage to 10 dollars an hour . Uh huh , promises kept indeed . 🙄 🌊

donna woodward's avatar

And for anyone having federal taxes withheld, start upping your number of dependents on your return.

Nay's avatar

Reduce your withholding. Stop letting the government hold your money in their “savings account,” interest free.

Cinda Williams Chima's avatar

I consider myself an independent who has voted for Republicans in the past when they fielded the better candidate. Not any more. Republicans have demonstrated that they are unwilling or unable to stand up against Trump's growing tyranny and massive corruption.

Al Keim's avatar

Yes Cinda if you haven't broken with Trump by now it's plain your motives are suspect.

Sandy's avatar

When I read about the massive theft of our tax dollars to pay off the insurgents, some of them violent criminals, I have to ask myself why I should even bother to pay my taxes. I do not want my hard-earned dollars funneled into the pockets of criminals and the Trump family. If I refuse to pay my taxes, I would not have to worry about an audit, would I? After all, the laws apply to all of us equally, right? Or am I just fooling myself?

Nancy's avatar

Yes, fooling yourself. Yours was likely a sarcastic remark because we know that laws in this regime to not apply equally to all, sadly!

Steve 218's avatar

We have seen this play out in reality. Trump is still free from imprisonment.

Anne Pierce's avatar

James Talerico must be thrilled that his likely opponent in November will be the scandal-plagued Paxton, not the incumbent Coryn, thanks to Trump, who consistently backs candidates that the overall electorate should loathe.

Nancy's avatar

So is it possible that Texans won't prefer the immoral, scandal-plagued Paxton? I wouldn't bet on it.

David Moscatello's avatar

It's possible because senate seats are statewide, so they can't be gerrymandered.

Jason's avatar

Yeah, I am not convinced this will work out al that well.

CE's avatar

And let’s not forget GAS PRICES and the IRAN WAR.

Craig L Peebles's avatar

In Pittsburgh yesterday, I saw gasoline selling for $4.959 or $5.959 and diesel was $6.499.

James Byham's avatar

4 67 near me in SE Pennsylvania near Maryland and Delaware.

Kathleen M Kendrick's avatar

$5.25 here in Oregon yesterday.

Nancy's avatar

Nearing levels here in CA!

patricia's avatar

I want gas to go to at least $7....it will take at least that to get MAGA brains to say hey wait a minute, I thought he said he was gonna....

James Byham's avatar

You may get your wish .

DW's avatar

$5.69 to $5.99 for regular, at Costco in the Bay Area. Where are people getting gas for $4 a gallon?

James Byham's avatar

At Donnyland I believe .

patricia's avatar

I think all gas is at least $4 something. Ca always higher

Judy W.'s avatar

One overlooked area of resistance is the impact of the Jim Crow gerrymandering of the South on college athletics. Particularly football where schools like Alabama and Ole Miss have reigned supreme with excellent black, southern recruits. These players have options and now may see that aligning with a major college in a “free” state is a way for them, and perhaps their families, to escape overt racism.

Entertainment venues of all types may even decide to boycott Jim Crow states. That is major money. Tourists within the U.S., and/or internationally, also have many options to travel and spend at places that respect and honor all citizens.

Southern MAGA white supremacy may support billionaire corruption, but they sure do not consider the consequences to their reputation and the livelihood of their communities!

patricia's avatar

will future historians credit ole miss and crimson tide football worship with saving America ??

Greg O's avatar

Republicans ARE the problem

patricia's avatar

idiot americans are the problem

Greg O's avatar

We’re sort of saying the same thing

James Byham's avatar

60 percent of Americans read at a 6th grade level OR LESS ........

Steve 218's avatar

The real problem is that they are no longer Republicans!

Alene N.'s avatar

So many great points from Jen and commenters. I am so tired of waking up every day and wanting to throttle the people who will not oppose Trump. We the people are owed an enormous restitution from these grifters who are getting away with billions in their pockets and literally and figuratively bankrupting the American people. There is no reason why any American should live in poverty at any age as far as our domestic agenda goes climbing back the stolen wealth and taxing the wealthy to reduce the wealth and equity in our country. Must be up there among the first priorities, I would love to see Pete Buttigieg take on such a project in the next Cabinet.

Ivan Tufaart's avatar

One of the oldest sayings in politics is:

YOU CAN'T DEFEAT SOMEBODY WITH NOBODY.

In other words, no matter how incompetent, corrupt or unpopular a politician is, that's not enough. The voters need a credible alternative. To me that means the Democrats have to find candidates who are electable, whatever that means. At least in the Senate they've come up with some pretty good choices (Brown in OH, Cooper in NC, Tallarico in TX, etc).

Now we have to see who ends up as the nominee in 2028. I used to decry the fact that people start running for President the day after the old presidential election, because 4 years of speculation and the brain-dead horse race coverage by the media is annoying. But I've come to believe that the ultra-marathon that the race has become actually helps to find the best candidate-- anyone who can survive the blows of the campaign will have a good chance of winning (and any skeletons would likely already be known.

john A ferguson's avatar

And this time no coups; no skipping of Iowa and New Hampshire. The smoke may have been gone but the room was still there in 2020.

It's Come To This's avatar

JK Rowling said it best at least a decade ago, describing him as a "tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, little man."

Steve 218's avatar

However, like a bedbug, midge or chigger, he has inflicted much misery and discomfort.

Michelle Jordan's avatar

The corruption that has been allowed by the MAGA party is astounding. Why can’t these people see it for what it’s worth? The MAGA’s that lost their races in the primaries should start voting their conscience if they still have one. The arch, the ballroom and the slush fund should come to an end. Now. It’s a perfect time to impeach if the MAGA’s have a spine.

patricia's avatar

they are blinded by and motivated by racism

Terry Gilbert's avatar

Racism and misogony.

Scott Helmers's avatar

I agree with your assessment of the worst of the MAGA people. For some time I have said that they are beyond rehabilitation to productive, valued citizens. They simply must be marginalized.

David's avatar

If Dems lose in the midterms it will be because they have spent the last two years blaming Trump instead of “the Republicans”. All the idiocy has been pinned repeatedly on one man, so the cult members can go on voting for their wacko Congressional incumbents without acknowledging their role in this farce. Shame on all the news people (including the Contrarian) for letting this happen).

Judy W.'s avatar

The strategy is to align the local Trump toadies running for election or reelection with the massive corruption, indecency, and tone deaf policies and behavior of the Trump administration. Along with offering alternative sound governing practices, Democrats and Independents running for elected office just have to illuminate the many incompetent (tariffs, endless wars, etc) Trump acts Republicans support, along with the ridiculous vanity projects (ballroom, reflective pool, golden statues, etc). Make Republicans justify how they are the party of fiscal conservatism and small government amid this bloated cash give away of our tax dollars. Make them justify what they allowed to happen to our economy by supporting Trump’s continued lunacy.

Steve 218's avatar

That is not quite enough. A clear statement of a platform of programs that aren't 'pie in the sky' eliteism are a requirement. These are needed to aid and reassure voters that they have not been forgotten, and will again be served by their government; that their taxes will not be squandered on preemtive wars and vanity projects.

patricia's avatar

well now how about we put the blame on american voters