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Robert Manz's avatar

I would like to share this optimism and im tempted to agree. Still I wonder if his red line is not “whatever it takes to stay out of jail”. E.G. “blow up the world”. I appreciate the full court press and urge no relaxation or early celebrations.

LiverpoolFCfan's avatar

"the part of the noxious scheme agreeing to release Trump and his family from all liability for audits underway remained in place, despite real concerns about its legality and even potential criminal liability for those who brokered the deal."

Amidst the regurgitation of all the fan-blown sheet pelting our faces daily, we need to keep our eye on this one.

It is still my hope that a storm of civil lawsuits will blight the doddering fascist's last days, and perhaps send him off in an orange jumpsuit. Surely this scheme to protect himself from the IRS is NOT "an official act".

Daniel Solomon's avatar

He's a party in all the losers. Yet he castigtes the court. Defames judges.

A court could find him in contempt and order a conservator.

Dancset's avatar

Courts SHOULD find him in contempt. If it was anyone else, or at least not ultra rich, he would have been in jail years ago

Steve 218's avatar

Trump originally stated that he would release his tax information when he became president. Another promise broken, and so the information was extracted through a work-around. Basically, he complains and sues over being held to his promise. No one is above the law. If the IRS can audit us, it can audit him. Let justice prevail.

Caifornian's avatar

I, too, noticed that line, and hope that the next administration revitalizes an impartial DoJ so that those whose actions enabled Trump's corruption are themselves indicted for whatever statute these actions fall under, and serve real prison time. Hopefully, the next administration is Democratic run and none of Trump's actions go unpunished.

Hiro's avatar

I caution to be too optimistic after the midterm. We will not know what kind of voter intimidations will come about. I would say the best strategy for DEMS is to start working together with Repbulican moderates for restoration of the government. Bring your enemies to your side is the best strategy as Lincoln urged in his second inaugural. Lincoln, our greatest president we can always learn from.

Jeff's avatar

As great a president as Lincoln was, the decision to make nice with the confederacy after the Civil War was a questionable strategy that allowed those same people to fester and eventually turn into maga.

Hiro's avatar

Yes, unfortunately the security of the presidentat that time was not tight as is now. There was no secrete service. If Lincoln lived through finishing his second term, our country could have been different.

Kandarohe's avatar

Let's give him a full pardon with the proviso that he stay out of politics and business. How long can an unhealthy 80-year-old live?

Benjamin Merembeck's avatar

The issue is not Trump's age. The issue is whether we will tolerate his taking a sledge hammer to the rule of law.

I say we should not tolerate it and prosecute him as an example to any wanna be dictators.

Barbara G Bornstein's avatar

I would certainly prefer prosecution to pardon, especially because T. would not be someone I could trust to honor a proviso to stay out of politics and business. I wouldn't trust anything he said, ever.

Kandarohe's avatar

He's mentally ill and physically weak. If he were barred and monitored, would he have enough energy to act?

Barbara G Bornstein's avatar

I'm not willing to take the chance. Fool me once....

David Moscatello's avatar

Absolutely not. The chain of Republican pardons of elected and appointed Republican criminals is unbroken since Nixon, and every Republican administration since has been more rightwing and more corrupt (G.H.W. Bush may have skipped the crimes, but not the pardons of the prior administration's crooks). They won't stop unless and until they see prison on the menu.

TomWS's avatar

In my opinion, Trump never intended to finish his term. He has flagrantly flaunted the law to line his and his cronie's pockets. He will milk this practice for as long as he can until he's stopped. Then he will simply resign and have Vance or some other flunky 'pardon' him for all crimes. He won't care, he'll be billions richer.

Paige Leger's avatar

I don’t know if he’ll resign. But I know Trump’s MO is to get as much out of it as he can until there’s nothing left to get, then abandon it and leave someone else to clean up the destruction he leaves behind. That’s how he’s always done things.

Nancy's avatar

Good reminder of who he's always been. He leaves destruction in his wake while he and his family rake in the money. I'm heartened that other countries (e.g., Albania) are pushing back against his family's wanting to enrich themselves on their land. As I understand it, Vietnam is going along with his sons' building of a golf course (or something) in a cemetery and having to remove graves because he's threatening them with higher tariffs. I'd like to see a headline about that!

Kim E Jones's avatar

Perhaps it was just about the money. But he also has his pride and self-importance. Looking weak is a horror to him.

TomWS's avatar

Thinking Trump is merely a stooge is a mistake. He's played this game his entire career. This 'stooge' has made it to President of the United States. He should not be underestimated. Every time he plays the Ceasefire/Bomb them cycle, there are inside traders who are getting rich at every flip. You can bet he's getting a percentage.

Jeanne's avatar

@TomWS You are absolutely right Tom, Donald Trump has not acted alone in his illegal march to the presidency and to the destruction of democracy and established law. One group complicit in his illegal acts is the Supreme Court which has enabled him to get away literally with murder and theft by manipulating the Constitution of the United Stares. A priority for the next change in government is to overhaul the Supreme Court with justices who know and respect the law, the MAGA SIX practice partisanship, not law, they are racist and discriminatory, and do not respect America.

patricia's avatar

Let the impeachments begin !

Kim E Jones's avatar

I didn’t say he was merely a stooge. Of course it’s about the money but it’s also about power and looking strong.

Donna Cox's avatar

The only place he looks strong is the air space between his ears.

D. J. Fone's avatar

Yet, for all Trump's riches...for all his power....for all his addiction to fame....for all of the people fawning before him....HE'S STILL THE ANGRIEST, MOST BITTER, VINDICTIVE, HOT-TEMPERED, and UNHAPPIEST man I've ever seen. He'd look really, really good in an orange jumpsuit, ankle chains, and super-long red tie in solitary at Alligator Auschwitz.

patricia's avatar

this might happen, and he will say the people didn't appreciate his greatness...in this he will be correct

donna woodward's avatar

He is crumbling, his presidency is crumbling, our governance systems and our way of life are crumbling. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him resign. Possibly not officially but he's already in a de facto state of resignation from his duties.

Diane in Ohio's avatar

He has already done is such damage to our country, it will take a generation to repair. Hopefully we won't ever encounter another demagogue like him again.

Jenell Mahoney's avatar

But only if we ensure real accountability is meted out to him, his cronies and his enablers...which includes all those compliant Congress members. Otherwise, the fascists only will come back stronger. Pardons, "to keep the country from ongoing pain", would be the same mistake as leaving the Confederates in charge of governance in the South after the Civil War.

Steve 218's avatar

We will need to see our own regime change to avoid 'another demagogue like him again'. Our government will have to revert to serving people, the law and Constitution first and the profit-grabbing corporate interests last. No more pay to play schemes can be acceptable.

john A ferguson's avatar

In 2016, I bet a dinner that Trump wouldn't finish the term. My thinking was that there were at least two possible avenues, one that he would be impeached, and the second that he would discover the role required a lot of work. I was right about the impeachments but never imagined the Republicans wouldn't muster the ethical responsibility.

As to the "lot of work" I hadn't expected that he simply wouldn't do it.

And as to now. Cutting a deal with Vance to pardon him after he takes early departure could be a real risk. Giving him a pass as the cost of getting rid of him would be one thing, but it would be wonderful if Vance renigged and Trump finally had to face the music - full bore, so to speak.

donna woodward's avatar

He makes a deal with Vance for a pardon. Then the pardon never comes. Vance's response: "I lied."

Bob Egbert's avatar

That would be great but I don't believe that Vance will be free to do as he chooses. The power of billionaires is greater than that of POTUS.

john A ferguson's avatar

Bob, don't you think that once Trump was out of office his sway (well, the political one) would be over?

Caifornian's avatar

Good question. Reminded me that I had never heard of Charlie Kirk before his murder, and haven't heard much about him after a few months, if that, of "outrage" by Trump and delusional Christian right wing evangelicals.

He will be 82 by that time and irrelevant.

john A ferguson's avatar

let's watch that about 82 and irrelevant. I'm 82. But then we are talking about Trump.

Bob Egbert's avatar

His sway is that he says out loud what the Republican Party had been saying since the Civil Rights Act in 1964. They encouraged racial & religious bigotry (starting with Nixon) through subtle “dog whistles” that the “Republican Base” was listening for. Trump has spewed it with a megaphone and the Republican Base went into ecstacy. He became their god. He rechristened them MAGA and gave them legitimacy. They may not be a majority but they are united while the Dems (I am one) are still fighting among themselves over pronouns and Progressive Purity. Much of the rest of the American electorate is only semi-conscious and only gets aroused when the price of gas and hamburger goes up a lot. They will vote for anyone who they believe will give them cheap gas and hamburger. The Iran War and the economic disaster that’s coming may be a blessing in disguise in that it may cause removal Trump and the weakening of MAGA.

john A ferguson's avatar

A sailor tap dances at the edge of a scene in Fellini's 8 1/2 in what appears to be hope to get a bit part in the impending movie. It doesn't work, but he keeps dancing.

I see Trump fading away while continuing to dance. Think Joe McCarthy for another politician who hasn't grasped that his appeal is in the past -- entirely.

Hummingbird3's avatar

I don’t believe trump’s political “sway” originated with him ( remember when he was a democrat?) or will end with him. Peter Thiel, Heritage Foundation, billionaire crypto and tech bros, foreign governments interested in our undoing, to name a few.

Bob Egbert's avatar

Exactly! Trump is the screwworm maggot that came along at a convenient time for the Heritage Foundation Fascist.

Barbara's avatar

Love it, but unlikely. Besides, he doesn't NEED a pardon, he's immune. He can keep the Supremes busy ruling in his favor, case by case, to the end of his lifetime.

john A ferguson's avatar

Barbara, it seems likely that his IRS infractions precede his tour in the Presidency, and in any case would be difficlut to identify as having anything to do with his official functions.

Barbara's avatar

I completely agree! I just expect he will sue everybody and appeal any criminal charge right on up to the Supreme Court (assuming he actually leaves the White House after 2028) and that law after law will be undermined by his corrupt Supreme Court if anything reaches that high. I'm considering that he IS 82 and may not live longer than say mid-nineties?

Jason's avatar

Trump never really cared about policy or any real ideology other than his own enrichment and attention. ON those notes, he has been very successful.

Trump and his family will leave Washington many billions of dollars richer than when he started his second term. He might not like the ego bruises here and there, but the massive grift he is pulling off will make up for it.

Nancy's avatar

I wonder how his "tenants" in his FL resort feel about being part of the MaraLago mafia. I'm assuming they are people of means. Are they getting rich off his criminality too so that they are happy to be a part of it? I haven't heard that people are moving out in large numbers. I'd sure be ashamed to be associated with that place.

Jason's avatar

'Are they getting rich off his criminality too so that they are happy to be a part of it?'

Yes and yes.

Bob Egbert's avatar

His masters in the Heritage Foundation probably will make him an offer (to resign) that he can't refuse and replace him with a smarter mouthpiece (Vance).

Caifornian's avatar

Vance would never win a term in office after his term was up. He doesn't have the power Trump has.

Barbara's avatar

I wish I thought he would resign and I suppose it is possible simply because he IS aging and getting very tired. However my bet is that if we swing at least the House and hopefully both, he will simply triple down on straightforward grifts. Get one of the sons or Kushner to explain what acts are most likely to be considered "duties of the office" to him, and then he just grifts those things to the avoidance of all else. For instance, just keep manipulation stocks with his weekend announcements, pulling in the profit and moving on. Since there are plenty of people who have figured out the grift and are pillaging more from the average investor by playing along, I imagine that would be plenty of zillionaires sending him kickbacks and whispering him what to play next. Sigh.

KnockKnockGreenpeace's avatar

"Asleep at the wheel," as it were.

Diane in Ohio's avatar

I don''t think ether Trump or Blanche is walking away from the $1.8 billion fund. They still consider it a settlement of his lawsuit against the IRS and Trump will still be stealing those funds from the taxpayers. The only question is how it will be used.

Don Kennedy's avatar

The hope is that a judge will look at that settlement, declare it illegal, and force the two of them to walk away from it.

Diane in Ohio's avatar

And I would like to see Blanche suffer some consequences for the fraud they perpetrated on the court. Trump is a moron and has immunity but Blanche should know better.

Steve 218's avatar

Consequence? Trump is now propsing Blanche to be the permanent Attorney General! If the senate confirms him, it will be another black mark on them.

Don Kennedy's avatar

Indeed he should; Trump does not have immunity for civil actions, nor does he have immunity for actions that are not part of his official duties. He was suing as a private citizen, not as president…

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

There are quite a few people who agree with you.

Kim E Jones's avatar

Pique of a cranky senior? Don’t insult cranky seniors! It’s the behavior of a child not getting his way.

Barbara B's avatar

Not immediately vowing an appeal of the Kennedy Center order was an early clue.

His health may be failing along with his programs. He acts like he’s lost the energy his narcissism usually gives him. I feel some pity for this twisted man

Reports of the death of the slush fund have been greatly exaggerated. Some action may take place next Friday. Isnt that the day trump has to respond in both virginia and florida slush fund cases. I notice judge luttig is the lead signer in the filing from the retired judges. He’s a bulldog.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

The scumbag president doesn't deserve any pity Barbara B. Neither his entourage that while he keeps himself busy by building stuff, demolishing, adding his name and image to everything of value and making up stories, keep pushing the fascist maga ideology.

kasperhauser's avatar

Your pity is misplaced. You should feel anger and sadness at what has been done to us.

Susan Fernbach's avatar

The ultimate mansplaining, telling someone how they “should feel.”

kasperhauser's avatar

You're right and I apologize for the tone. I just hate good people wasting their pity on really really bad people. But it does sound like mansplaining. I will try harder.

patricia's avatar

you are a true nice person Barbara...but don't feel pity for one who gives none

Kim E Jones's avatar

I love, love, love Luttig.

Steve 218's avatar

"I feel some pity for this twisted man"

I do not. He is underserving of pity, as he never shows any.

Robin Lawson's avatar

Looking forward to watching the stampede in oversized clown shoes. Brilliant visual, Jen. And thx for the update on your health. ❤️

Anne Pierce's avatar

A further Trump humiliation this week is that the candidate he endorsed for the Republican nomination for governor of Iowa lost the primary. Waiting for Trump to admit that. And waiting.....

Don Kennedy's avatar

“ I don’t know him; I’ve never met him, never heard of him…”

Craig L Peebles's avatar

Trump belongs in prison. His crimes are too numerous to list. Let's put him there.

Bob Egbert's avatar

I agree but he would need to be prosecuted under a state law where he couldn't be pardoned or use the immunity given by the Fascist Supreme Court.

Caifornian's avatar

Treason would suffice, I think.

John Gregory's avatar

one is counting on fair elections in November, but Trump and his smarter and just-as-evil confederates are working on many fronts to make sure they don't happen.

Kim E Jones's avatar

Oh, didn’t you hear, it’s the democrats who cheat. Just ask Tina Peters.

Lydia Lucas's avatar

It will be interesting to see what comes of that, too, if the malignant brooding thing at the center of it loses his mojo.

Wade Baynham's avatar

The Justice and Accountability Mission matters, Friends. Everyday. All day. The regime needs to understand consequences for their crimes, racism, grift and ineptness.

Night Has A Thousand Eyes's avatar

If you were Trump and you knew that the only thing between you and real personal disaster were the November elections and that failure was unthinkable, what would you do? From now through January 2027 will be an extraordinarily dangerous time. Losses are only losses when they are accepted as such and Trump with every fiber of his body and as long as he is breathing will do anything and everything to prevent the loser characterization.

Weatogue Guy's avatar

How delightful to see him acting like a child, taking his ball and going home.

His supporters — especially the marginals — can now see that the follow-through of governing is not what he does. “I alone can fix it” — unless he gets bored or a court stops him or the musicians don’t show up for his concert.

Trump’s stuck in a quagmire he chose — in the Mideast, in Washington, in the courts. It ain’t easy for a bully to get his way every time in a free country, is it — sir?

Charlie H's avatar

I suspect that he got very bad news at his unscheduled "physical". People who are suddenly facing their own mortality start acting like this, withdrawing from commitments and worrying about their "legacy".

JL West's avatar

Perhaps. We don't know where he's been for the previous 8 days of non-public appearances. Getting further testing and diagnoses? Some kind of treatment?

JL West's avatar

When people say he hasn't been seen, I think they mean he hasn't been seen going to his golf courses or anywhere where the press usually follows him around.

It's highly unusual for him not to be "on camera" at some time in an average day because he loves to dominate the day's news cycle. It seems like it's a big deal that he didn't do that for a whole week!

patricia's avatar

true, maybe he was getting a heart transplant

patricia's avatar

or a soul injection

patricia's avatar

hope springs eternal

Bill's avatar

From your typed words to god’s eyes and ears.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

What makes you think God cares? So far God hasn’t shown much in the way of positive actions. He gave us the world and turned us loose to make of it what we will. And we see what we’re making of it, a pile of crap.

donna woodward's avatar

There are, though, points of beauty and magic. We need to hold onto those if we're to survive.

Ricardo Grinbank's avatar

Yes Pam, but the only way to survive is to fight back and whenever we get the first opportunity, to legislate to make sure this nightmare we are going through will never happen again .

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

And I’m doing just that despite my cynical response. My only synthetic is that God is not involved. But we are, and he left it to us to do it. So onward!

Linda Silfven's avatar

I just hope to god that Democrats, when in power, have the balls to go after these traitors with the single mindedness of a rabid bulldog. If any spineless worm has the gall to say “we’re looking forward, not back” I hope the person next to him slaps him silly.